Gemini Omni 1.2 Flash

I find it hard to believe there aren't worse ones out there. But off the top of my head I actually can't think of any...

Quite incredible that you can say a sentence like that, while talking about something within Google(/Alphabet) that's actually an important area for them (not just some random little side project), and yet it isn't hyperbolic, it's sincere!

Everyone there overseeing it (from direct management all the way up to C-suite) should truly feel embarrassed.

Their backend looks very confused too. I consume their models through OpenRouter and requests are processed randomly by AI Studio or Vertex. API key management had several entry points for a while too, with the option to query the same model with a GCP, Firebase and/or AI Studio API key.

When I signed a few devs at work up for Gemini for Code I had to go into Google Cloud, jump through several different screens, assign special permissions to each dev to make it work and even when it did work...it was insanely confusing compared to every other option out there.

It's to the point where I'm better off asking Grok Bot set it up for me rather than ever deal with figuring it out again.

https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2083596911060324570?a=iif1W7...

Is this true anymore? I feel like a lot of the best talent have better opportunities elsewhere where they won't get bogged down by entrenched bureaucracy. Not to mention the Google interview process and physical locations filter out a lot of talented people from even wanting to apply.

Do they still have 5 messaging apps or did they finally trim it down.

Right. They lack no resources. Therefore, what is happening must be what they want to happen.

Antigravity come with Google's models and anthropic - so Gemini 4 Argon, Gemini 3.8 Flash, Claude Opus 5.5 Claude Sonnet 5.5 and GPT-OSS 120B.

Agy is better than Claude code in some ways and vice versa.

Google models are great.

Ironically google music is so terrible I've uninstalled it and use Metrolist exclusively.

I think google models do a decent job helping me put together a blog, for example:

https://hypertekst.net

(Content is typical 90s homepage stuff, not great. But model voice isn't as grating as Claude - and while it has a "look" I think it's s bit better).

Would want assurances they won’t permaban a Gmail for a false positive for something on their LLM offering. Like the risk with Google Photos (thinking about the dad sending a doctor a photo of his son’s rash).

Have used them both for work with google workspace accts, and personally, with antigravity in linux.

Google does tend to have terrible messaging/branding/etc that results in part of these problems.

When Argon first came out, it wasn't included in Antigravity/agy and I personally never saw a Google stated plan on when they would include it, and because they removed Gemini Pro when Argon was released there was a brief window where Antigravity/agy didn't support a "Pro" model at all even for people with a "Pro" subscription.

That said, I'm with you on the idea that Google is roughly on par with everyone else despite the rhetoric here on HN that makes it look like they are way behind. They do have typical Google problems with messaging/branding for their AI products, just like all their other products, but when I use Google models for personal use I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything I get when using Anthropic for work stuff (paid for by the company).

And for context I say this all as someone who is a bit of a Google hater these days (not happy with some recent Android decisions, moved off of gmail to avoid too much Google power concentration, etc).

So, no, it is not astroturfing.

Luna/Terra/Sol/Astra was a bit pretentious but at least the sizing makes sense. (I imagined the meeting... "Ok guys, we're getting mogged on naming... what's more epic than a Myth?" -"The SUN!")

Anthropic makes sense with the literary "scale" naming, mostly.

Is a Carbon bigger than an Argon though? Maybe it has to do with the atomic number?

https://vercel.com/ai-gateway/models/gemini-omni-1.2-flash

If you're using any sort of router middle-man new models are usually easy to try.

DuckDuckGo’s equivalent feature is unfortunately too prone to hallucination, especially whatever cheap model they are using for AI summaries. Once you click in it switches to GPT Luna, which will sometimes hilariously correct the previous response.

I think they are doing a terrible job with their product packaging. Like others, I also gave up with Google models long ago due to difficulty in accessing and low limits.

My gut is that this is reflective of their fragmented internal product organization around AI.

Go with the Flow, don’t ride the Wave.

For B-Roll it's different. I can somewhat see the why behind that. It's just to give your brain something to look at so that you don't have a voice-only podcast.

But movies OTOH are these creative endeavors where the shots _are_ the content instead of just augmenting the content.

This won't stop the industry from still trying to use this tech like that, of course.