Show HN: Hacker Times, a New York Times-inspired version of Hacker News

yeah but to be fair, those all just show posts with the same title. This one actually come up with pretty good headlines and summaries based on the articles themselves and I think actually are quite good for LLM-written content. It probably took some effort to get it to match NYT tone/style in writing and I found some of the headlines much better than the original ones though some of the charm of HN is titles that are unclear enough to make you go to the article only to find it's not about what you thought.

Might appreciate a print version of this mailed to my house :)

No shame in doing something that already exists for yourself. But at this point I think it wouldn't be asked too much to just ask your favorite agent to check first if someone already implemented your idea in the past and then consider if your vision is really distinct enough to warrant anther instance of whatever you want to build.

I actually liked https://thefrontpage.dev/

A shame that it broke a few weeks ago. These projects tends to get abandoned after a while.

Similar, but for Games people mention on HN: https://github.com/nicobrenner/project24#readme

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50361909

I quite liked https://hackernewstimes.com because it let's you see the articles and HN comments in a split pane.

https://hackerherald.com/ - I remember clearly from this ShowHN on it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42338327 - its quite similar!

HN keeps reinventing HN-flavored things.

I built this to aggregate all the aggregators (like HackerTube, Hackerbooks etc.) that were popular a few days ago (they go back to 2011, at least).

https://hackeragain.com

wow quite a list - my version of it is https://thedailyfront.johnnys.page which I built for myself, to read it on my tablet on my way to the office. A new issue is generated automatically every morning. My goal was to have something that is self-contained with every article directly readable on the site and to have the discussion there as well

I find this new one to be the best to look at. Layout, design, fonts. I'm not sure about the content but feels good to my eye

this is a great find . thanks i use this to filter the top headlines https://hckrnews.com/

damn the vibecoded ones look a lot better

Reminds me of furniture descriptions in the Sims

While I like the premise, the opening text:

> Ah, Manufacturing Consent—the font that doesn’t just scream “serious journalism,” it calmly editorializes it in 144-point Fraktur while subtly nudging your worldview.

Unfortunately feels too much like an LLM output for me.

(Which is probably post-ironic in this context?)

The instant value I got from this is actually something that resembles journalism and editing, even if it’s just an LLM doing the job: the rewriting of headlines along with a half-decent editorial summary paragraph gives me a clear overview of what each link is actually about without the usual puzzling over what the cryptic HN headline is trying to say.

Yes, but it's still nice to have a good UI. HN has many things that one can find inconvenient.

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Quoting the show hn introduction: "I thought it would be fun"

I think we can leave it at that no?

I was about to type this exactly!!

Curated or real-time? This is near real-time feed of latest stories:

https://donohoe.dev/timeswire/

not sure, do the have comments & discussions?

Lot of people come just for comments

Yeah, it does make the stories a lot more readable, HN just has bullet points of links making it slightly hard to follow everything the only thing the site is missing is a games tab like the NY Times.

I wouldn't mind a dark mode but otherwise agree. I do occasionally flashbang my baby by opening HN while he's asleep on me in the dark

Was kinda filled with N-gate, but they stopped updating.

http://n-gate.com/

You just described what Time magazine was.

Back when people still understood that they don't need to know about every single "breaking" news story on the planet the instant it happens.

For a couple of months, I took a digital news break. I only read one national paper on Sundays, and the local paper twice a week. Amazingly, I didn't burst into flames or get stranger dangered. I felt both calm and informed. I plan to resume that pattern after the election.

FOMO is the drug. The tech industry is the dealer.

It wasn't physical, but there was a slick app for the 1st gen of iPad called Early Edition which was basically just curated RSS feeds presented in the style of a newspaper. I was only able to find one image of it. I don't think the app exists anymore, unfortunately.

https://imgur.com/a/5sw6zOP

Early versions of Instapaper had a nice way to push out a Kindle "magazine" with recently-captured articles that I loved. This was circa...2010, 2011? An age long past.

If you can track down some decent sources that you like (maybe something like Kagi News, https://www.positive.news/, a good local paper if you have one), you could with little effort vibe up a daily printout and have it waiting for you when you get up each day. For a fun version, there's plenty of cheap thermal printers on aliexpress and similar that'd give you a non-US Letter/A4 version so it doesn't feel like Yet Another Document.

I wanted exactly the same thing, so I built https://morningsift.com. You can use it to create your own daily newsletters from topics, specific websites, youtube channels, X accounts, etc. This is totally free. You can even create it as a daily podcast, but I had to charge for this option, as it can get expensive to run every day. If you give it a shot, I would love to get any feedback!

Kagi has a news site/app that updates once per day with the highlights from various categories of news.

I would imagine one could take something like that, and have program fetch it each morning, format it nicely, and print out a front page overview of what's going on. Just pick up the paper from the printer each morning.

This idea might be fine for a front page, but would fall apart when you start getting into long articles and think pieces. You'd be burning through a lot of paper.

Not exactly what you’re asking for, but a big fan of Hacker Newsletter, which emails you top HN articles. What you’re asking for is a little utopian, HN is the closest thing I’ve found

Sure. I'm currently working through a list of feedback items that people shared here. I'll add that to the list.

>I just want HN in dark mode....

Dark Reader extension for Firefox, works on mobile and desktop. I constantly forget this setup and blinds myself when I access HN from elsewhere.

Here's a JS bookmarklet I use to apply dark mode to any website. It tries to preserve colors and avoids inverting graphics. Add a new bookmark to your toolbar and paste in that JS in place of the link. I hope you find it useful!

https://gist.github.com/mpetrovich/b3e4ec291d21bbdbe17b1adf4...

I use an alternative front end to Hacker News https://hn.premii.com

You can adjust the theme to your liking and I find it actually quite pleasant. No subscription, no login, mobile friendly and it has been stable and online for several years.

Dark Reader Mode for Firefox works well for me! ;)

I would be surprised if nobody already created a plugin for firefox/chrome that adds dark mode honestly

Just took a look out of curiosity. Zero is an insignificantly reduced version of lcase alphabetic 'o'.

Fonts that don't distinguish between 0 and O/o are abominations before God and all that is good in life.

Yeah, the typography choices here are poor. Nice idea but readability on mobile isn’t great sadly.

Well done.

Guess I missed ChatGPT sites, I presume it's exactly what I envision, you can make an accessible website with ChatGPT? If so, how do you know this is one?

That’s cool. Loved Apollo

Here ya go:

https://www.nytimes.com/rss

And let's not forget the NYT's supremely annoying autoplay video, which somehow gets around browsers set to NEVER (swearing) AUTOPLAY ANYTHING!

It had too high of an influence to integrity ratio, and got infiltrated by motivated actors. That is not an uncommon dynamic. Every democratic forum kind of medium with significance becomes a target for career propagandists and con artists and so on.

HackerHackerNews, a collection of the best Hacker News comments that were recommended by comments on Hacker News.

Hacker food already well defined in 1995 by Razor and Blade - clearly jolt cola :)

Source: https://youtu.be/O7AKquUtTvs?is=MJjR5eF9UY_JAo12

The problem ofcourse is when your measure becomes a target, it stops being a measure, and all that.

Hackertv.org

Hold my hacker beer...

For me I’m thinking about the postmodern pastiche of it, as in Jameson’s Late Capitalism, wherein the NYT (while in many ways not a fair and trustworthy entity) earns its credibility through the measure it takes of risk before publication— this project would reproduce the aesthetic identity of such carefulness without actually containing it.

>Next is Hacker X :)

Please don't :(

/s Please do! Who knows what will stick when you throw it at the wall?

Work in progress. Getting the "Impossible to Cancel" stuff right is surprisingly difficult.

washedup is right, of course, that the community is many people with many views (though the point should be made less snarkily). Of course HN disagrees with itself; it's not a self to begin with.

I think there's another factor: it takes time to find the best ways of using such new tools. The community is working this out slowly (as is society generally) and it is naturally a lagging phenomenon.

Seeing generated sites like OP and karpathy's HackerTube (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50319510) which look good and don't have the obvious-LLM sameiness that so many others do, is an interesting step along this way. It's also refreshing. There's no intrinsic reason why generated software should look bad or work poorly.

It's not about the tools.

I also regularly complain about AI generated content. I do that mostly, because it's often either

- extremely uninspired design and UX wise (e.g. the classical beige/serif AI slop website),

- full of obvious and stupid mistakes (e.g. those shitty infographics on social media),

- just mimics the real thing, but misses the actual purpose (e.g. again those shitty infographics on social media)

- or is ridiculously overloaded with features and documentation (e.g. many AI generated software tools on GitHub)

That's repelling to me, because it screams that the human behind it is himself lazy and uninspired. It's bland, overloaded or full of mistakes, because raw output is a commodity.

It feels like a waste of time to even consume something, that the author or developer wasn't willing to put actual effort and thought into.

But that's an artefact of how the author is using the tool and presenting the results.

It's not an inherent property of AI use itself. HackerTimes for example doesn't feel uninspired or bland. And i like it.

Goomba.

It's almost as if there are different groups that have different views and upvote different things.

i'm pretty happy with the existing way of browsing HN. i hope it never changes.