Toxic Experts (2017)
Posted by luu 1 hour ago
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Comment by austin-cheney 2 minutes ago
A problem that is encountered frequently among people with exceptionally low social intelligence is the inability to separate agreeability from social intelligence. Those concepts are completely unrelated.
Agreeability is the need to please others and to a lesser extent seek reciprocity for kindness. Kindness lives here. This is completely and utterly unrelated to social intelligence and when signals are confused acts in opposition to social intelligence.
Social intelligence is a perceptual skill. It is the ability to both introspect and perceive the motivations of others. You can have exceptionally high social intelligence and still be a cold asshole.
For people with exceptionally low social intelligence they lack the perceptual skills required to both introspect and discern the emotional communication of others. So... they may confuse that with something else, like kindness, where they strive to fill an unfillable gap.
It is fun talking about this with my wife. I am a software developer and software is staffed with males with low social intelligence at a much higher rate than the population at large. My wife works in education and its the same thing there for females.
Comment by ivansmf 13 minutes ago
Comment by eviks 18 minutes ago
There are two points in a connection, and one way to sever it is to follow author's advice to "ignore them". Or you could try to learn and maybe even engage.
(also, the "non-coward" way would be to actually link to the comment so that we could try to understand how toxic / irrelevant expert peons are)
Comment by rglover 7 minutes ago
When someone rags on me or my work in a way I interpret as aggressive or dismissive, I make a point to go look at what they're up to. More often than not: nothing, or, something that screams "oh, your problem with me is despite you knowing things I don't, I also know things that you don't."
I agree with the general sentiment here, but it helps to mentally filter the passive aggression and condescension from the point they're making. More often than not they're correct, you just have to cut through the weeds to get to it. I'd say that's an occupational hazard as a programmer.
Good? No. But a reality (on the personality level) you have to deal with in this business. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Comment by rpkla 17 minutes ago
Comment by llm_nerd 16 minutes ago
Maybe someone was having a bad day. Maybe this is an argument they had with a peer and it triggered a peeve. Whatever.
Tangential, but if I had to rank toxicity, someone going overboard at being a pedant in the easily censored comments under a blog post ranks far below overreacting and clutching pearls to try to pillorize and rile a torch mob, hoping to put them on blast and make them pay for their transgression. The latter is significantly more toxic, and it is what absolutely destroys communities.
Comment by rvz 17 minutes ago
Who cares? We have a clear term for this and it is called "point scoring".
Just give the rest of the group further reading material if they want to study it in their own time and to not talk over minute details.
So just dismiss them with a "Great point" remark and tell everyone else to read the reading list later.
Job done.
Comment by _dain_ 31 minutes ago
on the one hand it's a nasty thing to say he should be "ashamed" for not mentioning it. on the other, it is a little strange he hadn't come across the "amortized O(whatever)" concept before. esp if doing a talk about it..
neither of them come across well here.
Comment by werla 39 minutes ago
That is always what happens when you get rid of the experts. Ruthless mediocrity takes over!
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Comment by 0x20cowboy 2 minutes ago
I am a trust fund baby, and I think trust fund baby’s are the hardest working most deserving class of people.
Get on the blocked list for not being part of the herd from those places then let me know how nice they are.
Comment by tpoacher 24 minutes ago
It reads like a character assassination piece superficially presented as nuanced philosophy, and we don't even have the actual exchange, only this person's account of it, which we are meant to trust in terms of both wording and demonstrated intent.
"If you have nothing kind to say" as the quote goes ...
Comment by NoDodgeQuestion 14 minutes ago