CorridorKey 2.0
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Comment by teach 2 days ago
Niko goes into some more detail about the licensing choices they've made and why towards the end of the video as well.
[Edit: note that the above video is "content" so if you're not used to the style it might be offputting but I'm into it]
It's been so cool to watch this develop
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These tools can only get better and better as time goes on.
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Comment by Eji1700 2 days ago
I hate that it is because it makes me suspicious of every reaction. I happened to see the CD video on the clown wedding on the moon(sodium vapor maybe?) and so I at least have some grounding from this, but if I didn't I'd probably ignore most of this (as i ignored the thumbnail) because "literal industry defining tech" and "random temu mall ninja crap" has basically the same production pattern these days so why trust it?
I realize this is "old man yells at cloud" territory but it sucks that prostrating to the algorithm means all sincerity is lost because you have to ape Mr. Beast or whoever to get "engagement"
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And with that said, I'd say just jump to 23:40ish when the professional is talking if you're grumpy like me.
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Comment by ShakataGaNai 2 days ago
This is like Magnet Mask for Final Cut, but probably better. I haven't compared/contrasted the two yet, but I have faith that Corridor has knocked this one out of the park from the demos I have seen.
(Yes, you can download it for free. You're paying for the pre-packaged convenience. I 100% paid them to support the work they are doing).
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Comment by bramhaag 2 days ago
Here's a summary:
- The project is licensed under the "Corridor Key License" [1], which is CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 with extra clauses that permit commercial use of you have their blessing (That's right, CC BY-NC with commercial use allowed).
- CC licenses should not be used for software, and the non-commercial restrictions make this project not open source.
- This project is based on Hiera, which licenses its weights under CC BY-NC 4.0 [2]. Again, non-commercial. He is selling this.
- The license was changed a few times after the community rewrote large parts of this project. The contributors should've retained their copyright to their contributed code as there was no CLA or similar, but to my knowledge their code was relicensed without their consent.
[0] https://github.com/nikopueringer/CorridorKey/issues?q=licens...
[1] https://github.com/nikopueringer/CorridorKey/blob/main/LICEN...
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Comment by david_van_loon 2 days ago
The commercial package primarily consists of commercially supported plugins.
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Comment by jarjoura 2 days ago
I think it is an amazing example of how labs should take all of their fundamental research and turn into products entirely designed, limited and scoped only to empower artists instead of obsessed with trying to bypass them.
Comment by DrewADesign 2 days ago
The software companies aren’t going to start doing this because the media companies aren’t interested in doing that. Tools like Nuke that already do this are expensive tools for people that the tech industry is trying to make obsolete. The media companies want to sell anything that will sell, and spend as little as possible in the process.
I’m pretty sure this will have to come from skilled and experienced artists doing amazing things with technology despite the tech industry sabotaging their careers, which in turn develops demand for actual art rather than bulk-created ‘content’. Sadly, I think we’re years away from that. I graduated in this field in 2024 and my career was dead before it started. Most people in this business with the hard-won skills to do this work that spent years developing their taste, storytelling sophistication, and craft are in the process of being systematically fucked over by the tech industry. Sad.
Comment by jarjoura 2 days ago
I'm not super familiar with Nuke, but isn't ComfyUI the open-source version of that? If true, that's like saying Blender is making Maya obsolete, and maybe true, but Blender has its own community and so does Maya.
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Comment by dgently7 2 days ago
comfy is getting more features all the time but i dont think id put it in the same category of "professional imaging software" that nuke holds the top spot in.
Comment by 10111001 2 days ago
Or be made to do so through legislation meant to preserve human control and enhance human capability. IMHO, "we" (as in humanity) should be building advanced tools that are limited and work in predictable ways, rather than "intelligences" to replace us. Too bad our decisions are made by oligarchs (existing or wannabe) with different priorities.
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But it is interesting how video generation turned the corner from several months ago to now. I think the next AI project they do probably has to be with a generative tool even though they may be very hesitant to do that because they don't want to emphasize AI models that threaten their own jobs.
But I remember when they did the Project Greenlight thing which resulted in a massive list of desired projects from subscribers that they could not possibly make a dent in.
I think in the next several months they may be able to revisit that or at least some of the projects that had to be shelved due to lack of time. To make that possible they would leverage the latest generative AI models and workflows, possibly a few that haven't been released yet. But we are rapidly approaching the point where the models plus tooling is good enough to replace 95% of the technical work, and it's down to creativity. I think it's only a couple of years before that progress bar really maxed out.
Comment by imaginationra 2 days ago
Directors hate green screen, actors hate green screen- obsolete visual fx artists larping as storytellers/filmmakers love green screen.
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Comment by imaginationra 2 days ago
Actors have been given this ridiculous unwarranted status in modern times- they are nothing but puppets so who cares what actors think? They are just puppets that play make believe that they don't even make up themselves = redundant.
Comment by vigilantpuma 2 days ago
For what it’s worth, there have famous actors for literally thousands of years. As to “nothing but puppets,” the idea that actors bring nothing to the table and everything is just down to the director seems like a very self-aggrandizing thing to believe if you’re a director.
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They’re charging for the bundled plugins for various editing suites
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Comment by LeoWattenberg 2 days ago
This work is licensed under the Creative Commons
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International Public License
(CC BY-NC-SA 4.0), the full text of which is included below, subject
to the following additional terms and conditions. These additional
terms supplement the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 licence and take precedence
where they conflict."This tool" means the CorridorKey software in this repository and the CorridorKey model weights distributed for use with it.
By exercising any rights to the Licensed Material, You accept and agree to be bound by both these Additional Terms and the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 Public License.
1. PERMITTED USE
a. You may use this tool for any lawful purpose, including for
processing images as part of a commercial project, provided
that such use complies with the restrictions set out below
and the terms of the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 licence.
b. The images and video You produce with this tool are Yours.
The Licensor claims no rights in them, and You may use them
commercially.
2. RESTRICTIONS In addition to the restrictions set out in the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
licence, the following restrictions apply:
a. NO REPACKAGING OR RESALE
You may not repackage, redistribute, sublicense, or sell
this tool, in whole or in part, as a standalone product or
as part of a competing product, and You may not charge for
access to this tool's code or model weights.
b. NO PAID API OR INFERENCE SERVICES
You may not use this tool to provide inference as a paid
API service, whether directly or indirectly. This includes,
but is not limited to, offering access to this tool behind
a paywall, subscription model, or usage-based billing
system.
c. DERIVATIVES MUST BE FREELY ACCESSIBLE
You may build on this tool, but any project, fork,
derivative work, or modified version that You release and
that incorporates this tool must be made available to the
public free of charge. Voluntary donations and
pay-what-you-want pricing are permitted, provided that
paying nothing is always an available option.
d. COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE INTEGRATION
If you operate a commercial software package or inference
service and wish to incorporate this tool into your
software, you must obtain a separate written agreement
from the Licensor. Please contact:
contact@corridordigital.com
3. LARGE ORGANISATIONS a. If You are, or are using this tool on behalf of, a Legal
Entity whose total gross revenue exceeded US $20,000,000
(twenty million US dollars) in its most recently completed
fiscal year, the permissions in Section 1 do not apply
unless that Legal Entity has purchased a seat of the
CorridorKey plugin from the Licensor for each individual
who uses this tool.
b. "Legal Entity" means the entity using this tool together
with all other entities that control, are controlled by,
or are under common control with it. Revenue is measured
across the whole Legal Entity.
c. Each seat of the CorridorKey plugin includes a licence
for one individual to download and use this tool and its
model weights. Seats are available at:
https://corridorkey.com
Etc. Pp.Comment by Dylan16807 2 days ago
The two main restrictions on top of that are "no paid API" which also seems pretty minor when the whole intent of this is local operation, and excluding large companies which is pretty low impact.
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Comment by lrvick 15 hours ago
We can play this game forever. IP is dead.
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Comment by echelon 2 days ago
The OSI was created by the hyperscalers to pilfer free work from the commons.
Redis and elastic got owned by GCP and AWS because they went for OSI purity. The OSI is the hyperscalers.
Good fair source is more like shareware. The community can do whatever they want. Companies trying to profit must give back or pay to play.
Developers need to be compensated. It shouldn't be a labor of love that gets commercialized by hyperscalers whose own products are not open source.
The Corridor Crew model here is fantastic. As are fair source licenses. That's the way we should have done things all along.
Comment by ben-schaaf 2 days ago
If everyone followed this model instead of open source, then Corridor Key itself would have to cover dozens of software licenses for all it's dependencies.
Comment by LeoWattenberg 2 days ago
Audacity, Libreoffice etc. are regularly sold by companies in box stores and there isn't much of a problem with that. What's being sold there is really just a means of access, just like some pay an internet subscription, some pay for CD-ROMs or, heaven forbid, floppy disks.
But let's say that we don't care about the 4 freedoms, let's say the purpose is for developers to get compensated. In that case, this still is a bad license, as CC-by-nc-sa with redundant and contradictory terms isn't particularly clear. the way I'd interpret the license text differs from the intention stated in the README, "You may not repackage, redistribute...this tool" doesn't leave room for any shareware/donationware to get created in the first place.
I would have much preferred for them to be less sloppy about their licensing. The only way I can understand the current license is to ignore it, and go with the vague intention of "we want big companies to pay, and be the only ones allowed to make money off this plugin, otherwise do whatever" instead...
Comment by echelon 1 day ago
I fundamentally understand what the Corridor Crew are doing here and know that it supports them. Yet they're not being overbearing or stifling the community.
Comment by slopinthebag 7 hours ago
we're talking like pytorch, numpy, and other large foundational libraries released not as shareware, but for free.
so either the foundational libraries are true oss, or the consuming libraries cannot be shareware. you cannot have it both ways.
everyone loves restrictive licences when it's their project of course