SS United States to be sunk as largest artificial reef
Posted by geox 3 days ago
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Comment by dsabanin 22 hours ago
"The SS United States, once the fastest passenger liner in the world, is scheduled to be sunk in the Gulf of Mexico"
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Altman (Alternate Human) is ushering in AI. Amodei (Beloved of God, or Lover of God) is his opponent in this endeavour.
Comment by wvbdmp 21 hours ago
Also, the CEO of Mistral AI is called Mensch (Human).
Comment by shevy-java 21 hours ago
The name is Arthur Mensch and he comes from France. Odd to have this as last name in France.
Comment by maeln 21 hours ago
It's really not. Even without considering Alsace Lorraine, there is a lot of people with German origin in France. In general, it's very common to see people with family name from Spain, Italy, … And also from the old colonies / protectorate like Lebanon or Vietnam.
Comment by pluc 20 hours ago
spoiler: saxony is in germany
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Comment by GolfPopper 1 day ago
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!"
Comment by _petronius 20 hours ago
The rusting, decomposing hulk of the United States
is moored across Columbus Boulevard from Ikea,
rearing weirdly over the old municipal pier
on the mostly derelict docks in Philadelphia.
I’d forgotten how immense it is: I can’t imagine
which of the hundreds of portholes looked in
on the four-man cabin five flights down
I shared that first time I ran away to France.
We were told we were the fastest thing afloat,
and we surely were; even from the tiny deck
where passengers from tourist were allowed
our wake boiled ever vaster out behind.
That such a monster could be lifted by mere waves
and in the storm that hit us halfway across
tossed left and right until we vomited
seemed a violation of some natural law.
At Le Havre we were out of scale with everything;
when a swarm of tiny tugs nudged like piglets
at the teat the towering mass of us in place,
all the continent of Europe looked small.
Now, behind its ravelling chain-link fence,
the ship's somnolent carcass, cables lashed
like liliputian leashes to its prow, its pocking,
once pure paint discoloring to blood.
Upstream, the shells of long-abandoned factories
crouch for miles beneath the interstate;
the other way the bridge named after Whitman
hums with traffic towards the suburbs past his grave;
and "America's mighty flagship" waits here,
to be auctioned, I suppose, stripped of anything
it might still have of worth, and towed away
and torched into pieces on a beach in Bangladesh.Comment by rob74 20 hours ago
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Comment by foo42 22 hours ago
Apparently the RMS prefix on the RMS Titanic stands for "royal mail steamer" as it was authorised to carry the post.
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I find it funny that it changes between his and her depending on the reigning monarch at the time.
Comment by KPGv2 20 hours ago
i thought it was richard matthew stallman
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Comment by RobotToaster 1 day ago
It's not unusual for acronyms to have multiple meanings, the S in HMS can mean submarine, as submarines aren't ships.
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(Officially USSS, but it's often abbreviated to SS in common parlance.)
Comment by johnnyanmac 21 hours ago
I always thought it stood for "Set Sail", but this definition is more pragmatic.
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Memories can be odd, and I assume everyone has a similar story of some early situation.
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Comment by bunderbunder 1 day ago
It won't be floating anymore, but it will at least be somewhat physically intact, at least relative to the state it was already in. It was pretty well stripped bare back in the 80s, and further gutted after that asbestos abatement project a while back. And it will be available for people who can SCUBA dive to visit.
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Comment by stevesimmons 1 day ago
The SS Australis passed through multiple owners until it ran aground while being towed near the Canary Islands and broke into two.
A sad end to a majestic ship.
One memory of the trip was the week in the Indian Ocean midway between Africa and Australia where the waves were so large the ship's dining rooms made the tablecloths wet to stop the plates sliding off as we tried to eat breakfast...
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Comment by WalterBright 1 day ago
Some years ago I was on a cruise ship. The captain announced that they were changing course to avoid a storm. I was disappointed :-/
Comment by Animats 1 day ago
Cruise ships today look like hotels mounted on barges [1]. About half the speed. A refurbished SS United States was never going to compete in that market, and plans to do so were never funded.
[1] https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/icon-of-the-seas
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Comment by cucumber3732842 20 hours ago
The cruise ship will drive around the storm because it doesn't want the cargo to spill their drinks and get pissy. The liner has a schedule to keep.
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Comment by fsckboy 1 day ago
(not sure it should have been much of a surprise, jetliners were taking all the high paying traffic)
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It should be very good for both
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Comment by kragen 1 day ago
Buy a ticket while you can.
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Comment by globular-toast 20 hours ago
Worth noting, though, being able to "afford" this kind of thing isn't just about the money. Most people get only a few weeks holiday per year, and many aren't allowed to take more than a couple of at a time. To get the most out of something like this you'll ideally have a month at the very least to holiday, which is not possible for most.
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Comment by samatman 1 day ago
They call them “cruise ships” now, because the only reason to float around like that is fun, not business. So they have waterslides and such. Slightly less old-growth hardwood paneling, fewer places where one is allowed to smoke cigars.
But no. There are ten Greeks who could build another Queen Mary as a lark, and that’s just counting Greeks. However rich you think the world is? It’s richer than that.
Zeppelins, though. Those, I will grant you, have gotten scarce. Oh, the humanity.
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Comment by prmph 21 hours ago
Many people hate or fear flying. Some might also just prefer the laid back, retro, travel style. Not all are in a mad rush to get somewhere.
But I guess the market might be too small for regularly scheduled trips.
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Comment by Animats 1 day ago
Just saw a Zeppelin cruising over Woodside today. It's Sergey Brin's personal project, Pathfinder. It's a true Zeppelin, a rigid airship, not a blimp, and the world's largest air vehicle. [1] First flew in 2025, but, unlike the Airship Ventures craft we used to see giving tours over Silicon Valley, it's not flown often. It's normally parked in Hangar One at Moffet Field.
[1] https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/big-helium-airship-spott...
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https://www.cunardcareers.co.uk/roles-and-opportunities/ente...
But while the intro mentions talks, “Activity Manager” seems to be the only open position that mentions talks. Activity Manager doesn’t sound like as much fun as the gig you proposed.
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Comment by scrumper 16 hours ago
Here's another good-looking piece of US maritime history, in better shape but still at risk: NS Savannah[1]
[1]ns-savannah.com
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Its all deep sea fishing around there, you drop a line near the artificial reefs looking for bottom feeders.
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It would be funny if Mexico started calling it "el arrecife del imperio moribundo"
"The Reef of a Dying Empire"
Comment by Metacelsus 1 day ago
well, that depends on who's naming it these days...
Comment by braj0 15 hours ago
I'd say don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, don't think Mexico has much of a high horse to ride on lmao.
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Now we have seen video footage of occupation of the areas there. But one needs to calculate all trade-offs before one can conclude whether downing ships helps improve the environment. I have not read a scientific paper that objectively tries to determine this with all costs and counter-costs.
Comment by manarth 18 hours ago
Unless there are pollutants involved, the wreck is generally a net positive for biodiversity and provides an attractive area for marine life.
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So it turned out that the Leviathan had belonged to Germany under a different name, until it was seized by the USA during WWI. It was very interesting to discover all these facts about a vessel that is an intrinsic part of my quite recent family history, that was completely unknown to me, being adopted, until the miracle of DNA and digging into available public records began to reveal it all.
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> The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed. A Floating Fortress, for example, has locked up in it the labour that would build several hundred cargo-ships. Ultimately it is scrapped as obsolete, never having brought any material benefit to anybody, and with further enormous labours another Floating Fortress is built.
From George Orwell's 1984.
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Comment by venzaspa 19 hours ago
If they're sinking it, they've already worked out that it isn't cost effective to do anything else with first.
Comment by weird-eye-issue 1 day ago
Extracting it seems to be pretty nasty business
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This is a very high quality documentary and it's not like running YouTube is free either so exactly what are you expecting?
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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
If you really just watch a single video on YouTube per month then you can just deal with the ads or use an ad blocker. You seem to live in la la land
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We also call ourselves "humans". /s
Comment by verdverm 3 days ago
This sentence may anger someone into causing a controversy... hope this doesn't hit his favorite channels.
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The program in the Florida Keys is huge.
https://gis.myfwc.com/boating_guides/florida_keys/pages/art_...
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> From 2001 to 2008, within the vicinity of the reef, the amount of marine food per square foot has increased 400 times.
> The site has become so popular that fishermen steal from each other, and other states apply for the next subway cars to be dumped in their waters.
I guess the biggest problem in the ocean is the inability to stay in place. There was an interesting discussion of something similar on Twitter a couple years ago: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1760058156632142058.html
> Hyenas can strip a dead elephant clean in less than 48 hours.
> But in the ocean, whale carcasses drift around for months before they eventually sink.
> Land animals have gravity privilege. Any random stray dog can tear into a dead cow, even if the cow is a lot larger.
> But when bunch of sharks come up on the floating whale carcass, it's essentially a game of bobbing for pumpkins... it's not really possible to hold on to it or tear it open.
Comment by Terr_ 3 days ago
I would not be surprised if Ron DeSantis (Florida governor, Republican) somehow abuses his position to force a rename of the ship at the last moment, purely to avoid snarky headlines.
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The vessel is being being purchased by Okaloosa County, Florida. There are many ways for the state government to lean on a county to file some paperwork.
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Kind of frustrating that our comment times get changed when a story is given a second chance (not sure why this story should qualify for a second chance on HN...) and misrepresent when we made these comments
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Trump is not deserving of its name.
From two years ago: What's Going on With Shipping? SS United States - Fastest Cruise Liner and Flagship of US Merchant Marine - To Be Sunk! https://youtu.be/XFIPAJEl1TE
Comment by mrlonglong 17 hours ago