Carney's Bid to Make Canada an 'Associate Member' of the EU

Posted by JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago

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Comment by tempest_ 5 hours ago

If he is successful that would provide a road map for other nations to turn away from US hegemony and make deeper connections with Europe instead. Probably makes it easier that Canada is western and a commonwealth country. Carney definitely has the experience and connections in Europe to have a good chance at success.

Comment by vivekd 3 hours ago

I know hacker news is cheering for Carney and it's a nice David vs Goliath story. But as a Canadian - look I'm no fan of Trump, I don't appreciate what Trump said. But I'm not a fan of Carny's handling of this. There are alot of Canadian jobs at stake here and I don't think our leaders are handling this responsibly.

The only nations in the world that are "standing up to Trump" are China and Brazil. .

That's not good company to be in. Every other country, including most of Europe, has hammered out some kind of deal with America

I think our leaders, and frankly most of our country, needs to grow up and be pragmatic. Is what Trump is saying acceptable? No. But am I willing to see 10s of thousands of Canadians lose their job over some spat with the current American president? No

Thing about "American hegemony" and "middle power". And this "associate member of the EU" without any clear defined role or responsibility of privilege therein seems to be more political theater when what we need is results. I'm sorry but as a Canadian I feel like our leaders are morons more interested in their legacy and fame than they are in the wellbeing of everyday Canadians

Comment by MattRix 2 hours ago

As a fellow Canadian I think you have a misunderstanding of what’s at stake here. There is potential to lose tens of thousands of jobs by agreeing to the bad deal the american’s proposed.

Comment by moeadham 1 hour ago

You seem to forget that Canada was one of the first countries to strike a deal with Trump.

The he unilaterally scrapped the deal because of “fentanyl”.

Comment by clipsy 3 hours ago

> Every other country, including most of Europe, has hammered out some kind of deal with America

So did Canada, and Trump wiped his ass with the deal the moment he needed a distraction from another scandal. Canada is lucky to have leadership that understands the next "deal" will be equally disposable to America.

Comment by fooster 2 hours ago

Yeah 51st state governer carney. This guy is deadly serious. Deals hammered out with Trump are not worth the paper they’re written on. Besides that Trump has already violated CUSMA a deal he signed himself and has invoked ridiculous laws to punish Canada while lying through his teeth the entire time.

What do you expect Carney to do what that!?

Comment by ianpenney 3 hours ago

He already did at Davos. And then Justin Bieber played the greatest performance of his life at the Grammys. Both of these were in high registers that went unnoticed - and they were absolutely related.

We’re moving on.

Comment by g8oz 2 hours ago

Maybe Carney needs to post the kind of macho memes that Trump does for you to take him seriously.

Comment by jterrys 3 hours ago

Shame that the Canadians don't have any significant ports open towards the Atlantic. Vancouver dwarfs everything.

Comment by slipheen 2 hours ago

The St. Lawrence Seaway traffic isn't at Vancouver levels, but it's far from negligible.

In the relatively long-term, I'm also interested to see what's going to happen with the expansions at Churchill. It's still certainly small right now but there's an interesting opportunity going the northern route.

Comment by tamimio 1 hour ago

Can’t read the article nor I can find an archive link, but all of that is just a show. People underestimate how deeply interconnected the US and Cananda in so many ways, especially the critical infrastructure, decoupling that will need at least 10y of dedicated work, choose any sector, utility grid? Most hardware and software is relying on US based products, US can literally turn off the grid in minutes if anything got serious, same goes with other sectors, and no, boycotting US alcohol isn’t one if them. Sure, using that membership as a pressure tactic and all is worth the try, but realistically, the impact is not high.

Comment by fyredge 37 seconds ago

Even more reason to show that Canada is making a strategic decision. Both of them are so coupled to each other that they can't afford to hurt the other without hurting themselves. But now that the US has shown it's willingness for self harm, Canada is making a strategic decision to safeguard their survival.

Comment by gedy 4 hours ago

It's been some years but when visiting Quebec there seemed to be a noticable push to have Quebec align with the EU. I remember the Quebec and EU flags hanging on buildings, etc.

Comment by gucci-on-fleek 3 hours ago

I've never seen this out west before (I'm in Alberta), so my guess would be that it's related to the sovereignty movement [0] rather than some broader grassroots movement to join the EU. But I could be wrong here.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_sovereignty_movement