Apple wants to train AI on your private personal data

Posted by croes 7 hours ago

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Comment by EAtmULFO 7 hours ago

Changed again?

"We do not use our users’ private personal data or user interactions when training our foundation models. We also respect the rights of web publishers to opt out of foundation model training."

Comment by croes 6 hours ago

Further down. Point 4 under Responsible AI

Comment by classified 6 hours ago

Your private personal data and interactions are never used to train our foundation models unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

That's practically the opposite of what your editorialized submission title says.

Comment by croes 5 hours ago

No, it’s exactly what I wrote. They want to train AI on your data. I didn’t say anything about without consent or secretly but it’s a change to their previous stance where they said, they don’t do it.

Now you‘re one click away to allow them to use your data

Comment by MattDamonSpace 6 hours ago

Title seems misleading if not outright wrong, having read the article.

Comment by croes 5 hours ago

Where is is misleading?

They changed it from we don’t do it to we want to do it.

Now you‘re one click (or maybe two if they ask for confirmation of your choice) away to let them use your data.

Comment by nojs 6 hours ago

Regarding the architecture:

> Instead of forcing the entire model into DRAM, the full model is stored in flash memory (NAND). Because NAND-to-DRAM bandwidth is too slow to swap weights token by token, as standard MoE models require, AFM 3 Core Advanced makes routing decisions per prompt. A lightweight, dense block selects a fixed set of experts during initial processing, periodically reselecting them during generation. To minimize data movement, the model relies on a high percentage of always-active “shared experts” alongside input-dependent “routed experts” swapped into DRAM only when needed.

This is an interesting hybrid between MoE and managing entirely separate domain-specific models. Select the experts once, bring them into memory, and run inference for some period of time before re-evaluating. Saves having all experts in memory, but it's better than just selecting a whole model per query since you have a high number of small opaque experts that overlap and combine in interesting ways.

There is a probably a massive quality hit to doing this but it's interesting because it allows infinite scaling of model size.

Comment by orliesaurus 6 hours ago

what a coincidence, i thought we were going to slow down training (amodei, altman et al.)

Comment by croes 7 hours ago

They changed

> We do not use our users’ private personal data or user interactions when training our foundation models.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260829051311/https://machinele...

to

> Your private personal data and interactions are never used to train our foundation models unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-third...

Comment by andsoitis 7 hours ago

> unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

Is it opt-in or opt-out? Big difference.

Comment by oefrha 7 hours ago

So far Apple has been using default-checked checkbox during onboarding process for OS-level “help us improve…” diagnostics collection. Not sure about this specifically.

Comment by dented42 6 hours ago

I don’t think that counts as an automatic opt-in, given that it’s presented to the user directly during the setup process.

Comment by oefrha 6 hours ago

It means my mother will have it on, at least, if they use the same pattern.

Comment by pixelatedindex 7 hours ago

Explicitly choosing to help improve something by providing your data seems like an opt-in but what do I know these days

Comment by altano 7 hours ago

Opt-in = explicit and opt-out = implicit. You can't have implicit opt-in, that wouldn't make any sense.

Comment by cassianoleal 6 hours ago

You can't have implicit opt-out either. Opting is an explicit act.

Comment by WaltPurvis 6 hours ago

The sentence prior states: "Privacy is the default, not something you have to manage."

Comment by throwaway55353 6 hours ago

Apple keeps taking potshots at their own feet.

What Apple consumers want from Apple is a premium product without all the enshittification found everywhere else. I don't know what Apple thinks it's doing by introducing so many ads into everything (maps now!) and shuffling their feet backwards on all their privacy positions.

In a world where every company steals all my data equally, and is ridden with the same crappy ads, why on Earth would I pay a hefty premium to Apple? It's just so stupid and short-sighted in terms of product differentiation.