Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI

Posted by otherayden 1 day ago

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Comment by karim79 22 hours ago

Without AI, using AI to accomplish it's goal. And built using AI.

My friends we are in the future.

Comment by ghrl 22 hours ago

Just what I thought.

> made with <3 by Ayden

That's the cherry on the cake - indicating genuine effort and attention to detail put into something, yet not even checking the credit at the bottom.

Comment by ThePinion 21 hours ago

Actually a pretty funny joke if intentional.

Comment by otherayden 21 hours ago

I am the dev, it was in fact intentional

Comment by rsrsrs86 14 hours ago

Layered joke

Comment by karim79 21 hours ago

I just love it.

Comment by xtracto 20 hours ago

Can someone make a site to filter HN posts about apps that remove AI in HN?

Comment by jayGlow 1 hour ago

this is about the 4th post I've seen today that's some variation of hacker news without AI. Maybe we need a site to aggregate these together, hn but only the hn without AI posts.

Comment by otherayden 20 hours ago

Yeah unslop.news actually filters these out

Comment by shoobiedoo 21 hours ago

So what. The unabomber used a phone sometimes

Comment by evgenysokov 23 hours ago

This is a filter for articles about AI, not articles written by AI. I'd actually use the latter. As for the "no AI here" badge, people will soon just put it up themselves. Like llms.txt: you add it, and nobody checks.

Comment by kazinator 23 hours ago

Submissions of articles written by AI should be flagged on the upstream HN, as should be comments written by AI.

Comment by lilbigdoot 21 hours ago

Ngl it would be kinda fun for everyone to meme with each other on slop mode in slop threads

Comment by nilsherzig 22 hours ago

There you go :) https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/

as an extension so you can continue to comment and use hn as usual

Comment by warkdarrior 21 hours ago

Almost no programming-related posts left after filtering. Nice!

Comment by elif 23 hours ago

to certain people, it's all one-in-the-same. the real motivations behind this are a kind of existential human narcissism, a kind of denial-based coping mechanism grounded in a world-view that this industrial-revolution-scale change on society is somehow a passing phase.

Comment by otherayden 23 hours ago

touch grass

Comment by elif 22 hours ago

i suppose the correct retort would be to advise you to get your head out of it.

Comment by kazinator 23 hours ago

It has filtered itself out!

"Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI" is front page on news.ycombinator.com, absent on unslop.news.

Comment by otherayden 23 hours ago

as it should lol

Comment by bnchrch 23 hours ago

Yes please, take all the bleeding edge tech stories out of the aggregator I go to for bleeding edge tech stories.

Comment by deniska 22 hours ago

The majority of links about "AI" are not really interesting. "New model released, people who want to avoid thinking can now avoid 7% more thinking according to NoThink benchmark". The top comment: "look at the SVG of a pelican they overfit the model on this time".

Comment by Lerc 21 hours ago

If only we could put all new stories into a single feed and have some sort of mechanism to determine what the community considers interesting.

Comment by zephyrthenoble 23 hours ago

While I get what you are saying, from my perspective, there is no longer the same breadth of content on HN, with LLM related content taking up a significant portion of the top posts. Today is actually a pretty good day, with I think 7/30 being LLM related.

I just don't like having to dig through multiple pages of LLM posts to find other types of tech news. Even if I do read a few here or there, I can't filter them out to look for other stuff. There is other tech out there beyond AI.

Comment by wesz 22 hours ago

I feel like simple tagging system for hn submissions would fix that. A couple of predefined tags - single submissions should have at least one tag. User can define list of tags they want to follow and that's it.

Comment by otherayden 23 hours ago

Yes, bleeding edge tech story = tech story primarily focused on AI

Comment by Plont 22 hours ago

I was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow.

Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's:

1. company wants or gets more compute 2. IPO 3. AI slop is bad 4. AI company executive says something batshit (often because IPO)

It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these.

Comment by Plont 22 hours ago

I was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow.

Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's:

1. company wants or gets more compute 2. IPO 3. AI slop is bad 4. AI Company Executive says something batshit (often because IPO)

It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these. It doesn't feel bleeding edge so much as repetitive.

Comment by archagon 21 hours ago

“Tech stories” = Nth OpenAI/Anthropic press release or LLM-generated thought piece. Such enrichment, much learning.

Comment by sriyapaka 14 hours ago

Appreciate the thought; it's essential to keep us alive in engineering! It is understood; AI exist; that's not the only news :)

Comment by hn_submit 18 hours ago

To me this sounds very welcome. I'm continually scanning and skipping over any HN articles concerning A.I. and LLMs.

Having a site (or even a setting in HN) that does this for me is great!

Comment by bana-io 1 day ago

I actually like the look of this, I especially like being able to set a serif font instead of whatever default is on https://news.ycombinator.com.

Comment by japaget 21 hours ago

The upvote button seems to be broken or non-functional on unslop.news. I am running Windows 10 on a PC desktop with the latest version of MS Edge.

Comment by otherayden 21 hours ago

Adding this as an issue, will fix tonight! Edit: I'm realizing to get the upvotes to work I actually need an auth token for the user's HN account so it will have to be a redirect to the HN thread rather than a functional upvote button, but I am going to keep it to stick with the HN design

Comment by karim79 21 hours ago

That's intentional. It's a design choice. Get with the programme.

Comment by gnfargbl 23 hours ago

Does "without AI" mean without posts about AI, or without posts written by AI?

I think this is the former, but I want the latter.

Comment by otherayden 23 hours ago

I'm the creator, and it is the former. I will consider spending some money on one of the available "AI detector" APIs and making a similar site for the latter. My main problem with them, though, is that I don't think they work very well and even if they work now, I imagine they'd be perpetually behind the newest models

Comment by phforms 21 hours ago

HN mostly depresses me these days, so I appreciate this! (nice to see vibe-coding put to good use for once)

Comment by vander_elst 22 hours ago

Great project I was thinking about doing *exactly* the same. Do you mind sharing your stack?

Comment by otherayden 22 hours ago

Thanks! https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai

Comment by Kuyawa 20 hours ago

Is there any AI News site out there? Just AI related news and nothing else

There is a market for curated news about AI development in the world. I'd subscribe without hesitation

If so, please provide a link, thank you

Comment by otherayden 20 hours ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/

Comment by karim79 20 hours ago

Yes, it's called The Internet last time I checked.

Comment by danillonunes 20 hours ago

Someone could make a site that just computes the difference between hacker news and unslop news.

Comment by postalcoder 20 hours ago

https://hcker.news/?ai=include

Comment by imshaikot 17 hours ago

That's right on the money name picking :D

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Comment by tern 21 hours ago

A few design bugs in the mobile layout (Chrome)

Comment by otherayden 21 hours ago

Ah I have been using safari for testing. Will add this as an issue and fix tonight!

Comment by metalliqaz 1 day ago

It would be funny if this was vibe coded.

Comment by ethmarks 1 day ago

It is

> Ironically, this project was built with AI coding and uses AI to filter out articles about AI. Go figure.

https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai

Comment by nilsherzig 1 day ago

"Made with <3 by ..." Yea it is

Comment by otherayden 23 hours ago

I did this on purpose, I do not think AI would leave that in lol

Comment by nilsherzig 22 hours ago

yea fair, probably not

Comment by otherayden 1 day ago

hehe

Comment by 0gs 22 hours ago

links at the top e.g. show redirect to the regular site, i presume they are supposed to go to a filtered version

Comment by bhanu786 23 hours ago

It is espically god for AI researchers like me, is there any other resource, if you knowe would love to explore it

Comment by osquar 9 hours ago

Time for only-AI hacker news

Comment by daishi55 21 hours ago

ADS (AI derangement syndrome)

Comment by sajithdilshan 20 hours ago

You mean AIDS?

Comment by VCFundedGenYer 21 hours ago

This was written with AI, so there's no point here.

Comment by teiferer 23 hours ago

Currently there is an article about feeling sad w.r.t. AI on the front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661506 That one is filtered out too. Surely nobody is going to claim that it is slop?

Comment by drusepth 23 hours ago

I mean, that post /is/ entirely about AI.

The "I love AI" posts are just as bad as the "I hate AI" posts, and the same "this is my opinion on AI" posts are as bad as the onslaught of poorly-AI-vibed demo posts. Makes sense to filter them all out IMO.

Comment by lukan 23 hours ago

Agreed, but filtering still mostly works by people upvoting or flagging.

Comment by teiferer 10 hours ago

Sure, filter whatever fits your taste. But it's not slop, so "unslop.news" may not be the perfect name.

Comment by nphardon 23 hours ago

This is the first attempt I've seen that seems to be working. I like that it's just a acting as a filter and the comment section is linked to the hackernews source. It's really satisfying to not see any Ai bs. I do like how hackernews is limited to 30 front page posts.

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Comment by sershe 20 hours ago

Heh I was thinking for a while about a similar pet project but I would remove the political/mainstream news rage bait, especially the stuff that is more or less unrelated to technology. AI news are still tech news

Comment by otherayden 13 hours ago

Feel free to fork this then! https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai It uses an LLM to categorize posts as ai or not, so you can just use a different prompt to filter out whatever you don't want (e.g "Respond with only true or false. true if the following post content is primarily political and false otherwise)

Comment by burnt-resistor 22 hours ago

I love this so much because I hide every "Look at me, I use LLMs and it makes my toast" stories.

Comment by testaccount121 23 hours ago

On the front page:

  Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI (unslop.news)
  Hacker News with reduced priority for AI driven content (sprinklz.io)
  Show HN: Hacker News, without AI (hcker.news)
Three anti AI HN things on the front page at the same time. Two with the same title. This is spam.

Comment by allknowingfrog 23 hours ago

Or maybe it reflects a genuine desire from some subset of regular HN readers? Is it spam when three different articles about the latest Anthropic model make the front page? Or the latest Apple product release?

Comment by kazinator 23 hours ago

But have you heard of https://unslop.news? If you look at HN through that, the above AI-related spam disappears.

Comment by jefurii 23 hours ago

I think it's useful, and maybe an indication of something positive.

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Comment by Tubelord 23 hours ago

unslop.news IS slop btw: https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai

Comment by graypegg 21 hours ago

Huh... it's not even that hard of a problem to solve right? Maybe I'm insane, but I feel like this is easier to crank out in rails or something than sloppin' it. It's a singular page, with some filtering on one model + a job to add entries on a regular basis with an API call out to openanthrogemingptai.

We do get the the pinnicle of software quality though: parsing HTML with regex. https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai/blob/007e7b4a6df6...

Comment by otherayden 21 hours ago

lol it works though doesn't it?

Comment by graypegg 21 hours ago

Oh I'm just saying this would be faster to make with a framework and... traditional coding or whatever I'm told to call my job now.

If you're talking about parsing HTML with regex... buddy that IS the pinnacle of software quality. I'm sure... nay convinced, that HTML is fully parseable with regular expressions. We were just waiting for one very special boy to ask Claude for it, and today, the world hath received the fruits from a tree we planted long ago... thank you.

Comment by greenowl 22 hours ago

Kind of funny that currently the number 1 article is a Show HN for an AI vibe coded slop terminal program.

Comment by iLemming 20 hours ago

We get it, guys - you don't like reading news about AI, but can you just stop spamming submissions with this crap - "HN with no AI, built with AI", wtf is that? I feel like building: "HN for non-haters of AI", where every single motherfucker that even mentions anything remotely sounding like "a slop" would be just shadow-banned. And I'm not even excited about AI.

Comment by ChrisArchitect 1 day ago

Current thread:

Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850

Comment by bedroom_jabroni 21 hours ago

Why is it empty? /s