IKEA made a mod for Skyrim [video]

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Comment by Hackbraten 4 hours ago

IKEA bullied the developer of the indie game The Store is Closed into gutting the whole game. [0]

It’s a shame how people can even acknowledge, let alone applaud IKEA’s “funny” gaming-related ad after their successful meddling with SCP folklore, not to speak of the chilling effect their actions may have had on indie gaming.

[0]: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/the-store-is-closed-indie-s...

Comment by boredpudding 3 hours ago

Yeah sorry man, that's clearly IKEA so it's obvious they had to act on it. Can't sell IKEA-branded games without their permission. Even on their Steam trailer, the first second is clearly IKEA. Just changing the name is not enough. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1593010/The_Store_is_Clos...

Sometimes it's not that deep. Sometimes the cute little indie dev just made a mistake.

The game is also not out yet, even though rewards were promised in June 2024.

Comment by SXX 3 hours ago

Do you know what parody is?

Comment by srdjanr 3 hours ago

That's mentioned in the article:

> Further, there’s at least the possibility on the part of the developer to claim that such usage is a “parody,” with parody and satire protected at the highest levels of American law through the application of First Amendment freedom of speech rights. However, courts will often require actual commentary to be made in order to extend such protections. In that way, a store name like “I CAN’T A” (or something far more clever) has a greater chance of succeeding than simply using a play on the word “store” in Scandinavian.

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Comment by bdowling 8 minutes ago

According to the article, Starbucks chose not to sue in that case.

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Comment by david-gpu 3 hours ago

Trademarks are lost when they are not defended. That is entirely separate from fair use in copyright law.

Comment by PeterHolzwarth 3 minutes ago

Always been curious - what are some examples of trademarks being lost due to not being defended?

Comment by wavemode 1 hour ago

No, tradmarks can be parodied too. It's a first amendment protection, and extremely common in movies, TV and video games.

If the developer worked with a lawyer they could've gotten any suit by IKEA (this wasn't a suit yet, just a cease and desist letter) quickly dismissed.

Comment by Y-bar 3 hours ago

This explains why Apple has sued The Onion a dozen or so times for all the parodies that infringed on trademarks belonging to the corporation.

https://theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-lapt...

https://theonion.com/new-ipad-offers-3-months-of-something-c...

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Comment by jchw 3 hours ago

Trademark is about preventing someone's brand for being confused for another. Unless someone was confusing this for being an official IKEA product I'm not sure why it would be in the ballpark of trademark.

There is also trade dress of course but that isn't really related.

Comment by Forgeties79 3 hours ago

This is an often repeated statement online (like “fiduciary duty”) that way over emphasizes the risk. Parody media poses absolutely no risk to their trademark, not even a tiny bit of incremental “damage.”

Companies don’t need to be bulliest the vast majority of the time they act like one. We need to stop parroting this excuse for them.

Comment by elondaits 1 hour ago

IANAL but I heard the creators of Robot Chicken (an animation show that parodies many big franchises) that they have to be very careful to make sure they can claim what they do is parody. As I understood, and to my best recollection, they cannot just use e.g., Batman in an original funny context… they need to actually comment on Batman (existing storylines, characters, tropes, cliches, mythology) in their sketch. That said, we know that some IP lawyers will just send a Cease & Desist because it costs them nothing, it’s more defensible, and they don’t risk any penalties.

Comment by Mountain_Skies 1 hour ago

A bit of a tangent to Weird Al, who often is said to not need the permission of the original artist because his songs are parodies, usually isn't commenting on the actual content of the original song but instead takes the lyrics and gives them a different theme. 'Smells like Nirvana' is one of the few songs he does that actually does directly parody the original. His videos are far more parody than the songs themselves. Makes me wonder where the legal line actually is drawn and if asking permission is actually because it would be too risky not to.

Comment by bsammon 3 minutes ago

(Not sure if you were saying this in your comment) I read somewhere that Weird Al always asks permission before releasing a parody song.

IIRC, the same article/post also said that some other prominent parody artists (Stan Freberg might have been an example) generally did not.

Comment by SXX 3 hours ago

Just waiting for The Coca Cola company to sue Bethesda for having Nuka Cola.

Comment by mikestew 19 minutes ago

They’ll probably want to go after Jones Soda first. :eyeroll:

https://www.amazon.com/Jones-Soda-Fallout-Nuka-Cola-Flavored...

Comment by krior 3 hours ago

Why? There are a lot of colas around the world.

Comment by ZiiS 57 minutes ago

Whom they often sue. 100% they would would consider the logo/branding/bottle infringing if they were a competing product.

Comment by mikestew 18 minutes ago

Sue for using “cola” in the product name? Citation most definitely needed.

Comment by gmueckl 3 hours ago

This is a tough one. The main culprit here is that trademwark law forces the trademark owner into an active defense posture to avoid losing the trademwark. This is very different from patents or copyright. So, in a way, IKEA was forced to write that nasty letter to the developer. Still, it's obvious fromo the published game footage that the developer was trying to walk a line between referencing IKEA and calling them out directly.

I kind of wish that lawyers could settle these things more amicably than by opening with outright threats. The game is clearly taking SCP 3008 as its inspiration and that is a a quite satirical horror story take on IKEA stores. A part of me wishes that companies would be a bit more relaxed about obviously comedic or satirical uses of their identity. What would IKEA lose by approaching the developers in a more supportive manner initially? Say, by offering some more constructive suggestions to steer them away from the particular elements they take offense at.

Comment by srdjanr 3 hours ago

It sounds like they mostly did something like that:

> The lawyers then tell the developer, “You can of course easily make a video game set in a furniture store that does not look like, or suggest, an IKEA store.” The presumed game development experts go on to explain, “You can easily make changes to your game to avoid these problems, especially since you do not plan to release the game until 2024.”

(from https://kotaku.com/ikea-furniture-horror-game-store-is-close..., linked in the article)

They also listed exactly what they think infringes their trademark.

Comment by gmueckl 57 minutes ago

They did that, but I think the 10 day deadline is quite heavy-handed. Also, would it be too difficult to offer a review and critique of a revised design (draft) to make sure that the matter can be resolved without further escalation?

Comment by taneq 3 hours ago

They could have bought the game rights, hired the devs, or otherwise come to some licensing agreement. It’d have been a boatload of free publicity for very little outlay. I guess they may not have wanted customers to associate their store with scary things, though.

Comment by infecto 2 hours ago

They don’t want that association and it’s definitely not a boatload of PR. This Skyrim mod works because it’s hilarious sounding.

Comment by post-it 4 hours ago

I don't believe in intellectual property, but to the extent that we live in a world where IP exists, the original game as described is pretty clearly using IKEA's trade dress.

Comment by SXX 3 hours ago

It's still bad when mega-corporations attack small guy. Its certainly worth to shame companies for doing this kind of stuff.

And almost as comical as Nintendo buying rights to a porn movie to prevent their distribution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Hornio_Brothers

Comment by post-it 3 hours ago

Eh, I kinda get it. For a brief time, the Mario pipes were more associated with Flappy Bird than with Mario itself. That was fine, and the game died out quickly, but if the pipes became associated with Mario's cock, or if the IKEA layout became associated with a bloodbath pvp game, those associations could easily overtake the original meanings in popular culture, and the original brands would never be the same.

I think that would be a fair price to pay for freeing our society from the shackles of pretending you can own an idea, but I get where these executives are coming from.

Comment by fendy3002 3 hours ago

people underestimated the effect of jokes / stigma of media to a brand. There is non-zero chance that adults will associate the game with ikea brand and harm the brand image.

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Comment by thinkingtoilet 3 minutes ago

What percent of people do you think know that? I sure didn't. I'm guessing to two decimal points, exactly 0.00% of people know that. It's a shame how people can make sweeping statements about something when it's beyond obvious no one knows what they're talking about.

Comment by kalleboo 1 hour ago

Interestingly, that link is the first time I've ever gotten a Cloudflare HTTP 451. Apparently that site is banned in Japan for "gambling".

Comment by lukas099 1 hour ago

Is it possible that that influenced IKEA's decision to make the Skyrim mod in OP? That way, they have a stronger trademark case, because it's more likely for a consumer to confuse the fake IKEA game with the real one.

Comment by srdjanr 3 hours ago

My (very) naive take:

Was it important part of the game that the store looks just like IKEA?

If yes, that probably makes it more likely that it was a trademark infringement and that IKEA was justified. If no, it shouldn't be a big deal to change the colors, just to avoid potential confusion.

Comment by nkrisc 5 hours ago

The concept reminds of Chex Quest, a Doom total conversion based on Chex, the cereal brand.

I loved playing it when I was 8 or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chex_Quest

Comment by HeckFeck 31 minutes ago

Even I've heard of Chex Quest and the brand has never been available in my country.

Interesting lesson there. No one hates marketing tie-ins when you make something genuinely fun, i.e. that people want to play. Opposed to forcing a distraction.

Comment by nyanmatt 5 hours ago

Chex Quest was really good, wasn't it!? I was so impressed. Today I learned, it is known for having been the first video game ever to be included as a cereal box prize.

Comment by ryandrake 1 hour ago

It was surprisingly good, and innovation-wise as a marketing project, way ahead of its time in the mid 90s.

Comment by lukas099 1 hour ago

Chex Quest was awesome and got a ton of playtime in my household.

Comment by BirAdam 1 hour ago

There was also the Mr Pibb game.

Comment by nkrisc 8 minutes ago

Not familiar with that one at all, was it also a doom conversion? I’ll have to check it out.

Comment by colechristensen 15 minutes ago

Honestly I like Chex Quest more than Doom.

It would be hilarious if they made more of them. Chex: Eternal, Chex: Age of Breakfast

Play it! https://dos.zone/chex-quest-1996/

Comment by kalleboo 7 hours ago

I watched a bit of someone's play through and was impressed by how much content there actually was for a one-off bit like this. I would have assumed they would have just made enough content to make for a funny ad but there's quite a lot of scripted storyline and voice acting.

Comment by Tade0 7 hours ago

IKEA is known for going the extra skogsmil in whatever they do.

Comment by cluckindan 4 hours ago

Especially logging in old-growth forests.

(skogsmil = forest miles)

Comment by gonzalohm 5 hours ago

I mean, they even recreated an IKEA inside a dungeon and you have to navigate it and get the part to build your Kallax

Comment by LelouBil 7 hours ago

Comment by peterus 6 hours ago

I like the attention to detail with the Todd Howard reference:

> Become encumbered in-game to start your quest to storage bliss! It just works.

Comment by qmr 5 hours ago

> Will there be meatballs?

> Maybe.

Comment by chao- 5 hours ago

I normally dislike shameless brand crossovers, but this faux low-budget, yet-another-janky-mod vibe... they committed to the bit. I can't hate it.

Comment by colechristensen 11 minutes ago

My dislike for brand crossovers is inversely correlated with how reasonable a match the brands are.

Ikea vs. The Sims? Lame, obvious

Ikea vs. Skyrim? 10/10 no notes

Comment by HeckFeck 30 minutes ago

Related: McDonalds producing a GameBoy game in 2023 developed using GB Studio as a 90s throwback: https://www.grimacesbirthday.com/

Comment by jml7c5 8 hours ago

I was wondering what compelled Bethesda to update the game a few weeks ago, the first time in two years. On PC, any update to the game breaks mods that rely on DLL modification, so you'd expect them to be wary of doing it for no reason. Maybe improving support for this was the impetus.

Comment by blitzar 7 hours ago

They needed to do a few nerfs and buffs to the other storage solutions to balance the game for the introduction of KALLAX

Comment by cyh555 6 hours ago

Is this Skyrim Special Edition or the Legendary Edition?

Comment by Mtinie 5 hours ago

Skyrim Legendary Special Edition HD.

Comment by alpaca128 3 hours ago

I genuinely can't tell if this is a real thing because they re-released it so often they even made a joke version called Very Special Edition once.

Comment by vlyan 6 hours ago

>so you'd expect them to be wary of doing it for no reason

average skyrim patch notes:

- added no features

- fixed no bugs

- moved around some buttons in the paid mods menu

Comment by ludicrousdispla 7 hours ago

Play a game long enough and the main challenge becomes inventory management. I look forward to the IVAR update.

Comment by vanderZwan 6 hours ago

Oh, so you're team IVAR?

BILLY gang forever!

(just kidding, I actually have both, and way more IVAR shelves than BILLYs at that(BILLIES? What would be the proper plural here?))

Comment by regularfry 5 hours ago

Billipodes. Obviously.

Comment by Sharlin 6 hours ago

Casting Leomund’s Secret Chest, now comes with TROFAST modular storage management system.

Comment by aenis 7 hours ago

Best thing I saw on hacker news in a while.

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Comment by fanatic2pope 2 hours ago

Toast, can you hear me? This is Clem Fandango.

Comment by brindleth 7 hours ago

Is that Matt Berry!?

Comment by werdnapk 3 hours ago

That is not Matt Berry's voice.

Comment by tanepiper 3 hours ago

It literally says on the mod page "Voiced by Matt Berry"

Comment by my-next-account 3 hours ago

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the voice over in the video is Swedish world strongest man winner Magnus Samuelsson.

Comment by scrollaway 2 hours ago

There are two VOs by Matt berry during the video. There’s more than one voice.

Comment by scrollaway 7 hours ago

Unmistakably so.

Comment by TiredOfLife 5 hours ago

I heard this in his voice.

Comment by PeterStuer 7 minutes ago

Cut the cardboard crap. Make Billy great again!

Comment by walrus01 5 hours ago

One of the known bugs in skyrim that will likely never be patched is that you realistically can't fill a room with cheese wheels, cabbage, bottles of wine or any other static objects (in a cell that persists items, like in an owned house). It's already hard enough to put an object on a table or shelf and expect to not find it on the floor if you leave and come back.

Add enough objects to keep track of and it'll crash the game immediately on loading the cell. Some of the examples of cluttered objects in the video are already pushing the limits of what will crash the game engine.

Comment by drayfield 3 hours ago

You've reminded me of a story from the Witcher 3 devs where during an earlier build items would randomly disappear. Horses, weapons, tankards, even NPCs... you name it, on certain conditions they would vanish before the player's eyes. Turns out they weren't just disappearing, they were "teleporting" by effectively respawning at a single point in the dead centre of the map. When they investigated the location there was an innocuous looking dwelling that was packed to the rafters with all the vanished assets. Spending too long in the place would crash the game, presumably because the collection detection on that number of cheeses, sheep, and grunting Nilfgaardian soldiers was just too much.

Comment by pawelduda 4 hours ago

Funny, but I hope it doesn't catch on. This genre of games is rather free from ads and the last thing we need is corporations shoving their marketing agenda into classics.

Comment by echelon 4 hours ago

This is precisely how you advertise. But the beauty is that you can only do this a few times before the formula becomes worn out.

Others will have to come up with something else, entirely different, that is equally inventive.

Brilliant ad on the part of IKEA. It has all of the right ingredients, is totally unexpected, outlandishly absurd, and hits at a massive audience. Truly peerless.

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Comment by nilamo 4 hours ago

It's a mod for a 15 year old game. You can just choose not to install it? Lmao

Comment by pawelduda 1 hour ago

Already followed your tip but still saw an Ikea ad in Skyrim today.

Comment by alexlal 1 hour ago

I can think of no one better to be the VO for a sentient shelf.

Comment by hagbard_c 5 hours ago

They should call it "Bagaget" which translates to "The Luggage" and put lots of small feet under it. Those who read Discworld will know what I'm talking about.

Comment by andrewclunn 5 hours ago

I wanted to install it, but the instructions were just a bunch of pictures.

Comment by ifahimreza 3 hours ago

in my country ikea product sold as luxury product ..

Comment by ButlerianJihad 3 hours ago

Lest we forget, the seminal guerrilla daytime drama: IKEA Heights

https://youtube.com/@ikeaheights?si=ZP7jYR1cUw16yhvo

Why and how it remains available, only Google knows!

Comment by warpspin 6 hours ago

Pure marketing genius

Comment by fragmede 7 hours ago

Do you think someone at IKEA had the idea and they hired someone to do it, or did someone have the idea and made it, and then talked IKEA into making it official?

Comment by bcraven 7 hours ago

The idea has been conceived and executed by creative agency Mother, in partnership with Kinggath Creations - a team of creatives, fans and mod developers who make fun and original content that blends seamlessly into the game world.

https://creative.salon/articles/work/ikea-mother-kallax-stor...

Comment by altmanaltman 6 hours ago

It is likely they had the idea they (the people that actually made the mod) could talk a brand into this and IKEA was one of the many brands pitched. But someone at IKEA has to have seen this and say okay this makes sense for it work obviously. Eitherway i would say it doesn't really matter as long as they do fun stuff like this

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Comment by tonijn 2 days ago

Is it April yet?

Comment by carabiner 8 hours ago

No it's 9/12

Comment by venzaspa 18 minutes ago

The 9th of December?

Comment by layer8 5 hours ago

9/12 = 3/4, so it is April?

Comment by ganzsz 6 hours ago

It's not December yet?

Comment by englishrookie 6 hours ago

I agree with the spirit of your comment. 20261209 Is a much better way to express the date than the 9/12 Americanism.

Comment by tmtvl 6 hours ago

Year, day, month in that order written all together? I have seen both day-month-year (12-09-2026) and year-month-day (2026-09-12), but _that_'s a new one.

Comment by Hugsbox 1 hour ago

You're a few months ahead of yourself :)

Comment by ulnarkressty 6 hours ago

Just a reminder that they are a corporation and to not fall for their PR. They are actively destroying the environment while paying as little tax as possible. The cheapness of their furniture does have externalities one needs to consider.

Comment by 2muchcoffeeman 4 hours ago

At some point people need to take some responsibilities too. I have a bunch of ikea furniture. I have never thrown much away. Maybe 1 piece. I manage to disassemble and reassemble the rest when I need to. Sometimes I need to take a closer look at make sure I can disassemble and reassemble it.

People view cheap as disposable. That’s not entirely corporations fault.

Comment by post-it 4 hours ago

Yeah, the total mass of all my Ikea furniture is probably equivalent to one hardwood table, so it can't be that bad for the environment.

Comment by ulnarkressty 2 hours ago

I really don't understand this point, similar to the other poster below - making lightweight furniture and not clear cutting virgin forests are not mutually exclusive.

Comment by post-it 2 hours ago

I think there's a big difference between products that are inherently harmful to the environment and products that are only harmful because the producer chooses to behave harmfully. European regulators should just stop Ikea from clear cutting virgin forests.

Comment by gonzalohm 5 hours ago

At this point their products have so little material that it may be better for the environment to buy an IKEA one vs decent furniture (from the standpoint of caring for the environment)

Comment by ulnarkressty 2 hours ago

They can make lightweight furniture while not rasing virgin forests to the ground.