Bing Wallpaper showing Ad for Harry Potter and Fantastic beasts box set
Posted by neogodless 22 hours ago
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Comment by tialaramex 21 hours ago
1. I installed a new Windows-only gaming setup. Out of the box it was able to figure out how IPv6 networking works here but didn't get IPv4. So for the 10-20 minutes it took to fix that I was able to see what's a priority for Microsoft (so it works even with just IPv6) and what's non-critical so you can demand IPv4
Adverts everywhere: Critical, Ipv4 not needed
Turning *off* the adverts: Non-essential, need Ipv4 or you can't change this
2. In my day job we look after the software which runs exams. For obvious reasons this software cannot do anything except present your exam and accept whatever your answers are. The University doesn't have buckets of money and almost all its machines run Windows, so exams happen on Windows. With a locked down environment you can still write the formulae you were supposed to memorize on your tits and then wear a top you can pull down to look at them "discretely" the same as in a paper exam, but you can't ask ChatGPT to write your essay about Singapore's housing policy for your politics exam or have it tell you whether the X-ray in figure 1 shows evidence for options A, B, C or D in your 3rd year medicine exam.Despite the fact that this software is as locked down as we could possibly make it, and so the machine definitely cannot "install OneDrive" even if the student really wanted to instead of taking their exam, Windows will still sometimes interrupt their exam to ask them if they want to install OneDrive.
Comment by Eridanus2 20 hours ago
Mnemonic devices. Oh, the privilege.
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Comment by orphea 20 hours ago
- "how is it surprising that Windows is bad? [unrelated story]"
- "linux linux linux switch to linux"
Comment by tapoxi 20 hours ago
The last time I remember hearing positive news about Windows was the Win 7 launch.
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Comment by mitchitized 20 hours ago
For me it was Windows 95 finally getting rid of Trumpet Winsock. Been a steady decline ever since.
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Comment by fuzzfactor 13 hours ago
For many years there has been "Windows Spotlight" through a number of Windows versions, which is the "regular" way for desktop background "wallpaper" to be autoupdated, as well as the modern "lock screen" which appears before the desktop comes up.
Then one day "Bing Wallpaper" was added as an extra feature for those already having the Bing app, which is intended for users who want more carefully-targeted ads and search results than you get from merely using Bing as the default search engine on your browser.
And if you didn't already have the Bing app there arose a subtle barrage of encouragement to persuade as many users as possible that "everyone" already has this "essential" Microsoft feature so you better not miss out. It's free after all.
When Bing Wallpaper became a thing it seemed like some beautiful eye candy to get more people's attention to something that was kind of a dud.
Later after a certain point many users would have had to opt out of Bing Wallpaper since then.
Co-incidentally, after gaining the impression that usage goals for the Bing Wallpaper were not being met after a while, the good old built-in Windows Spotlight has become flakier than ever and completely dysfunctional lots of the time. Simultaneously most of the "usual" expert wallpaper advice no longer applies, "maybe" because changes under the hood to accommodate sharing the normal wallpaper pipeline with the Bing alternative have gummed things up like never before.
However for quite a while there you could readily choose between Windows Spotlight or Bing Wallpaper and it worked either way as expected, then it all just kind of crumbled one day.
It doesn't matter what search engine you use now, most pro remedies for users who want Windows-curated wallpaper either settle for installing Bing Wallpaper or don't work any more.
Looks like "subtle" pressure toward the tracking-and-ad-riddled "choice" for those who want their Windows desktop to appear to do the same thing it was doing beforehand.
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Comment by alex_c 21 hours ago
Windows is rotten to the core.
The scariest part is just how many people stick with the default settings, and get this stuff pumped into their brains 24/7.
I hope some day we’ll take this as seriously as environmental protection. Which granted isn’t perfect either, but a lot more than we do about all the mental toxicity being spewed at scale by large tech firms.
Comment by dylan604 19 hours ago
The problem is that, as we are currently seeing, that any administration can reverse any policy previously set. So any regulation is not a permanent solution.
Comment by CodeMage 16 hours ago
Depends on what you mean by "can". You're right in that any administration that successfully abandons the rule of law can do anything they want, but that's not a problem inherent to regulation as a concept. Regulation is a good solution, but it won't work when a corrupt, lawless regime is in power. It's kinda like saying we shouldn't vaccinate because being forced to drink toilet water can kill us.
As for not being a permanent solution, that's okay. No regulation is meant to be permanent. Regulations are supposed to change, but there's supposed to be a process to follow and that process is supposed to ensure that the change happens for the good of the society and is governed by the will of the people.
The fact that none of those prerequisites are currently satisfied does not imply that regulation doesn't work.
Comment by dylan604 15 hours ago
So I'm not really sure where you seem to think an abandonment of rule of law is at play
Comment by CodeMage 8 hours ago
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Comment by wat10000 19 hours ago
I haven’t used Windows for more than 30 seconds since XP. Every time I hear about what it’s become, I’m just baffled. I never considered it to be good, but at least it tried. Now it seems like another example of big companies hating their customers and wishing they’d just get out of the way of the money coming in.
Comment by colechristensen 21 hours ago
It's not particularly "sensational" news but a tragedy with many global connections.
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Comment by bluefirebrand 19 hours ago
I just want to take a couple of notes, I need to write down a handful of bullet points to remember the name of an NPC or two for the Pathfinder game I'm playing in, and notepad is like "set up your OneDrive account!".
Kiss my ass Windows
Comment by accrual 19 hours ago
Comment by qwerpy 17 hours ago
There’s a place for it and it’s the news where I can consume it when I feel like it. Not the application launcher of my operating system.
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Comment by bejd 22 hours ago
I checked the download page[0] and next to the download button they say they will do this
>You will also receive in-app notifications with promotional offers from Microsoft
Comment by applfanboysbgon 22 hours ago
I would not describe a full-screen wallpaper, that is, the entire functionality of the software, to be a "notification".
Comment by bobtheborg 21 hours ago
or
https://bing.com/ and use the < > to move through history.
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Comment by tapoxi 21 hours ago
She only plays a handful of games and browses the web, Bazzite was a no-brainer replacement.
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Comment by GuB-42 20 hours ago
And I am evidently an minority here, but I don't really mind. I don't really have a problem with ads, I have a problem with annoying ads. Popups, banners, billboards, notifications, video segments, etc... they grab your attention and take up valuable space, I hate these, and I think everyone else does.
But here it is just a wallpaper that happens to be branded, it is not particularly distracting, in fact, I find it pretty good overall. I like this simple, low contrast style for a wallpaper on the background.
And that Tomb Raider lockscreen image from before was more than good, to me, it was one of the best!
Of course, you may have different tastes, but and I can easily imagine someone being unaware that it is an ad (or not caring) and making it his new default.
I understand why people wouldn't want this, but I didn't expect that much outrage. I mean, it is Windows 11, and you are letting Microsoft pick wallpapers for you, what did you expect? Getting to see the wallpaper behind all these much more intrusive ads, notifications and AI crap seems like a rather impressive feat. So much that I would have expected people who got there to have given up on complaining, or better, given up on Windows. And the author runs an "insider preview", talk about masochism!
Comment by mapontosevenths 19 hours ago
I paid for windows. I am the customer. I am not not the product.
I actually like Windows, or did for most of my nearly 30 year career. In the past I have defended it against the "winblows" crowd.
Now there are no new features that users want, the start menu is a progressive web app, explorer takes 2x3 times the resources it did in 10 and does less, and they have lost all respect for me as a consumer.
I'm one ad away from migrating everything I own to a system that respects me. It will be an investment, but I suspect it will be worth it.
The new macs look nice.
Comment by jareklupinski 19 hours ago
theyre a nice stepstone but after a couple years on a macbook im looking at just using my fedora desktop fulltime
Comment by matherial 20 hours ago
Or, if you bought a mattress and discovered that it hums some well-targeted, inoffensive jingle at 11pm every night, would that be fine?
Ads intruding deeper and deeper into your "personal" space are an issue even if they're executed well. Now, for free products, maybe that's fine. But you paid for that OS, and now it comes with ads on multiple surfaces.
Comment by GuB-42 19 hours ago
Yes, because I didn't call you to paint anything on my walls. But if I hired you to paint me something on my wall every month, and gave you total freedom, then no, I wouldn't mind an occasional tactful ad. In fact, I know some people who buy (or steal) ad posters they find beautiful and put them on their wall.
> Or, if you bought a mattress and discovered that it hums some well-targeted, inoffensive jingle at 11pm every night, would that be fine?
No, I don't want my mattress to hum, mattresses are not supposed to hum. But if I bought a picture frame and that picture frame came preloaded with a tasteful ad, then I would be fine, because picture frames are supposed to have pictures in it. I can always change it later.
That's what I wanted to point out. That ad is a picture that goes where pictures should go, and blends in. It is not like an ad banner that goes where content should be, a billboard that block my view of the landscape, or that humming that definitely shouldn't come out of a mattress.
> But you paid for that OS
That component, Bing Wallpaper is free, I think. And I believe you can have it on other OSes. Bundling ad-supported software and services in paid software is still a dubious practice, but in this particular case, I don't think it is that bad, as in, pretty much everything else is worse in Windows.
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Comment by bluefirebrand 20 hours ago
I'm of the opinion that basically all ads are annoying.
Anything that wants to take my attention away from the thing I actually want to do feels very hostile to me
Comment by mapontosevenths 19 hours ago
They took Aristotles rhetoric, and turned it into a slimy dead thing that seeks profit rather than truth.
Advertising is sophistry, and sophistry is evil.
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Comment by kingkandu 12 hours ago
But I had to go to Linux and I suspect MicroSuck is in very deep financial shit with LibreOffice and Linux offering far better user experiences.
Comment by ragequittah 8 hours ago
When I opened up the old notepad and my add/remove programs was 3 entries long I couldn't believe it.
Comment by ryandrake 22 hours ago
Our definition of 'malware' has really drifted, then. This is absolutely, positively, 100% malware. Just because it comes with your OS doesn't mean it's not.
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Comment by micromacrofoot 22 hours ago
Ads on install, ads in the start menu, ads in the toolbar, ads in wallpaper, ads in notifications, ads on the lockscreen, ads in widgets, ads in file explorer...
Comment by Krssst 20 hours ago
I wonder what it would become if it was split off Microsoft and given to two competing companies.
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Comment by TitaRusell 18 hours ago
Anything actually important is done on my smartphone.
Comment by nxc18 21 hours ago
It’s a big initiative and you know Microsoft is always serious about those.
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-...
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Comment by caidan 22 hours ago
Maybe surgeons and dentists should tattoo ads onto bigcorp execs faces unless they spot and correctly fill out the quintuple negated opt out hidden on page 97 of their medical care clickwrap agreements.
Edit: And of course now the playbook: if the backlash is strong enough the mea culpa, then 6 months later kill it out of spite.
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Comment by nekusar 22 hours ago
It's been years since Microsoft has went from OS to advert ridden surveillance OS.
If you have been abused by Microsoft for years, recognize the abusive actions against you, know you have Linux alternatives, and you still choose abuse... Well, this is a YOU problem.
You can choose Linux. Works super well these days. But this is a YOU problem if you keep choosing MS Windows and their ongoing abuse and enshittification.
Comment by red_admiral 22 hours ago