Ask HN: How do you manage skills files?
Posted by imadtaieber 1 day ago
How do you find skills, keep them organized, and make sure they actually work? Do you keep improving them over time?
I believe skills will eventually be eating by model capabilities, but until then I'm just looking for a better way to manage things.
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Comment by avaer 23 hours ago
There was a time when maybe it mattered (last year), but with good repos and good prompts today's agents can find exactly what they need without any skills.
"Skills" as developer macros can be useful, but at most those are things shared with the team (in the repo), not something you download from the internet. If you have so many skills that you feel the need to manage them, that's a code smell.
Comment by sigmoid10 23 hours ago
I think waaay more people struggle with this than HN would have you believe. In the real world, not everyone is a software dev with a developer mindset to using these tools. Normal people essentially type the equivalent of "Make me X!" and complain when the model assumes anything in their underspecified mess of a prompt. There are skills like grill-me that can potentially help these people a lot, but in the end I believe models will just be smart enough to understand your level of knowledge and intent to do this stuff on their own. They are getting much better on pushing back on poor user input already. The problem is that when they double down on hallucinations (very rare nowadays but I still see it happen in enterprise projects with the latest models). So you kind of need to know when to push back on the model as well. But for that you have to be really good at the subject.
Comment by wongarsu 22 hours ago
As a skilled developer my repetitive instructions are mostly one or two sentence phrases for staring something like a highly-interactive planning session, or a self-supervised implementation session with my preferred setup of implementation and review subagents. I can specify those out by hand, or save a couple keystrokes with a tiny skill file.
But if you are not a software dev you might lack the vocabulary to tell the agent what you want. If you don't know what tenant isolation is, chances are your app will have a broken security model because you can't ask for it, and probably won't think to ask the agent for a security review either. Skills can mitigate a lot here
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Comment by HumblyTossed 17 hours ago
I'm sure we all know. I mean, just ask anyone to write a story and break it into small tasks that can each be accomplished completely in a day.
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Comment by itishappy 18 hours ago
Yes, they are just text, and can therefore be replaced with good prompting. However, this also means they confer a real benefit: a good set of skills creates a transferable baseline, raising the skill floor and offering a more consistent experience across the organization.
Comment by colechristensen 17 hours ago
A skill is just a stored prompt you want to put more information into than you're likely to type out every time you intend to do that thing. Documentation of a business process.
Comment by estearum 17 hours ago
They added the additional claim that writing the skills down (apparently) prevents the models from having to self-prompt on the fly and therefore reduces token consumption.
Comment by mlmonkey 13 hours ago
Comment by estearum 12 hours ago
The question is whether the number of tokens required to achieve a certain behavior/intelligence/quality is equal between you manually providing those tokens via skills versus the model "deriving" the "skills" it needs on-the-fly in order to produce the outcome you want.
The claim above is that the former requires far fewer tokens.
Also skills only consume tokens when they are used, and part of the value is that the model will dynamically find and disclose only what's needed (assuming the skill is "well-designed").
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Comment by woud420 16 hours ago
The more determinism you have, the more consistent you can be and the more leverage you can build. (yes I understand that skill calls are non deterministic).
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Comment by verdverm 16 hours ago
One of the more interesting benefits to skills is that many harnesses now run the inline command(s) in backticks, shortcutting the model needing to make a tool call. This is helpful for deterministically building up context content for the skill before the agent ever sees it.
We take this further in some instances and have workflows that (1) does deterministic context gathering (2) invokes an agent (3) processes a file the agent is told to produce. This has made our PR review agent much better and removed it's access to all credential files. We have a step that gathers the diff + existing pull request comments into a .review dir, let the agent process that and create a comments.jsonl, then run a script in a new step to apply the comments against the API
Comment by rpunkfu 2 hours ago
Problem is not having to remember to run agents in exact sequence and not having to repeat the processes.
That’s why I’ve created ctx traits and using them everyday, biggest wins for me are: sync across repos using git-based dependency manager and validator, which ensures version of the process / knowledge I’m using has been approved by me and hasn’t moved without my approval (similar to dependency managers lockfile approach).
This has allowed me to use same traits (it’s extension of skills with typed schemas and procedures, you can use skills with it as well as usual) across different repos without any copy pasting etc.
There are additional cool things like type-driven procedures with specific harness/agent associations and many more cool things coming soon.
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Comment by mathgeek 17 hours ago
Alternatively, you pick a belief based on prior evidence from either approach you mentioned, which is the natural thing that many of us do.
Comment by dolmen 14 hours ago
But what about "I"?
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Comment by jaapz 21 hours ago
I have three development machines. You kinda need something like git to keep everyone in sync!
And there's still value in encoding a process in a skill - it's way more token efficient to tell the model what but also HOW to do something. Otherwise, it just spends a lot of tokens figuring out something that they previously did already.
Comment by InsideOutSanta 21 hours ago
Comment by specproc 20 hours ago
I'd add to that I've also used them as a style guide. The project involved taking in unstructured inputs and creating structured outputs. Lots of choices along the way, and it seemed a neat way to encapsulate decisions we'd made as a team.
Storage, well it's just for the one project, so the repo. Can't say I've used them beyond that.
Comment by p2detar 21 hours ago
Comment by JauntyHatAngle 23 hours ago
I've mostly followed what anthropic suggests, which is putting less into context and more into skills, to keep the "how" out of context until it is needed to reduce context bloat.
Skills have some instructions but are primarily informed repo specific instructions and keep their context away from the rest of the repo to keep things sanitised for me.
I've found it to be useful in that context.
Comment by tetha 22 hours ago
Skills and agents in the Claude world can also be extended and evolved over time, as they are committed "code".
For example, we have an agent which can take a statement or a support ticket and identifies the services, tenants and infrastructure components likely meant in the ticket or request. Similar to a skill, Claude can invoke this on demand in a conversation.
This started very simple, but various people spent time tuning it over the last 4-6 months. They have "taught" it to pick up on jargon from different departments, writing style of different departments, how they think about their systems.
With all of that tuning over time it has become quite "clever" in identifying the mentioned systems and - if requested - the train of thought leading to this conclusion.
Similar things are happening with skills for various task, be it Ansible integration tests, upgrade chores and so on. The first version can be fairly underwhelming, but continuously improving it after each usage can make them very powerful.
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Comment by buffalobuffalo 22 hours ago
I think we tend to overlook the fact that LLMs have tilted the scales heavily in favor of those with good verbal skills. A huge portion of the population (including a portion of highly skilled software engineers) is not great at doing this. For them, harness skills still act as a kind of scaffolding; they support automated work on a project in cases where insufficient details is given in the prompt.
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Comment by frumiousirc 21 hours ago
Your observation on the readership bias of HN is a good one for people to add to their HUMANS.md before reading and commenting. :)
Comment by ryaniscool 17 hours ago
Q: I need help doing X
A: if you’re doing X, you’re doing it wrong.
I propose the word shamesplaining. What do you think?
Not saying your opinion isn’t valid. It just doesn’t answer the question and it’s disturbing that this is the top voted answer. It sounds more like a criticism than an answer.
Comment by skinfaxi 17 hours ago
Comment by SoftTalker 16 hours ago
Q: I need help doing X
A: What are you really trying to do?
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Comment by saejox 23 hours ago
creating your own skills however good for both reducing the token usage & increasing reliability. those damn llms are not deterministic, asking same thing twice produces 2 different results.
Comment by Azkar 18 hours ago
Every feature I build uses a skill that does the following:
1. Read a ticket and get context on the task. The ticket was probably written by another agent after a conversation with myself about what is happening/needs to happen, etc.
2. Plan the task, asking for clarification where needed
3. Pressure test the plan, and validate the plans logic (subagents)
4. Implement
5. Runtime/local validation
6. Post PR, review it using applicable agents (database, security, code, prose...)
7. Fix PR based on feedback
I generally get excellent results out of this process, and I cannot imagine trying to orchestrate this without a skill. But I also can imagine my workflow isn't tuned to be super usable for anyone else.
Comment by mat_b 16 hours ago
Comment by Azkar 16 hours ago
It goes on to describe what counts as a claim, how to verify the claims, and how to respond. It responds to each claim with verified, unverified, or contradicted.
The skeptic agent has been the most high value thing I've added to the workflow.
Comment by ma2kx 16 hours ago
Same with mcp. I want them to use the jsdelivr cdn instead of them scraping github against the rate limit. etc. But if I dont explicitly state to strictly use the $%!$@@! mcp for searching in repositories they simply ignore the mcp and even if clearly instructed, they still often fall back to gh.
Putting every detailed instruction in the AGENTS.md would just unnecessarily bloat the context and it works well enough to just instruct them in the AGENTS.md when to use which skill. Yet I agree that Skills are not some voodoo magic to provide your model super capabilities.
Comment by seer 20 hours ago
Even fable _regularly_ stumbles as big repos or custom configurations, even for projects that fable itself built with high dev quality standards and modern design direction.
It just can’t hold it all in its context and will be forced to do “software archeology” all the time to figure things out - yeah it will work _most_ of the time, but to truly be able to scale and have autonomous agents reliably work and mold your codebase you need a lot more structure - tests, lints, compilers, validators etc. Your “skills” or policy files are there so agents can resolve issues and heal things themselves without your explicit direction.
If I have several tabs, each holding an agent team, with each agent spawning subagents as it sees fit, all of that apparatus has to ground itself _somewhere_ and if you don’t make decisions yourself, it will make decisions for you, save them in its own skill files, but some of these you might not like.
Comment by mhh__ 20 hours ago
Comment by breckenedge 19 hours ago
I use these loops to monitor the CI build and PR approvals rather than having the agent poll, and even Opus gets the commands wrong enough to make it worth it.
Last week I wired up a skill for the agent to share screenshots in PRs via specific S3 buckets and AWS CLIs. Again, the agents guess at the right commands often enough to make it worth being explicit.
Sure these could have gone in CLAUDE.md, but not every agent needs the context.
And at the company level, I can push skills to everyone’s Claude via the Teams function, they don’t need to edit configs or even know what a skill is.
Comment by sleepybrett 4 hours ago
It feels like at the project/product/middle management layer this type of 'big pile of skills to do some very specific task' is very popular. I think this is probably for a few reasons.
I think the largest factor is that these task management items are really just like .. calling a few different apis and slapping it through some jinja to post to github and create a jira ticket.. whatever. For an engineer, we can knock that out over coffee. But for this middle management layer, not a lot of them have the will or the skills to pop open the ide and code themselves a tool. Until the advent of skills that is. So I think they are a bit drunk with power. Which yaknow we'll see.
The skills are starting to become the documentation for these types of things as well as a way to automate it. This is great, but this type of 'documentation' is exactly the type of thing that goes non-updated for years in some dark corner of confluence. So I suspect the little used skills are going to fall to 'context rot'.
As an engineer, I keep all those skills in one very specific claude project and keep that largely separate from any given claude session that's helping me design a feature.
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Comment by 8fingerlouie 22 hours ago
Otherwise I agree, and you don't even have to be that verbose with prompt engineering these days as LLMs have gotten increasingly good at figuring out what you want.
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Comment by enraged_camel 19 hours ago
So I went ahead and created a skill for it. This is so that future Opus agents won’t come to the wrong conclusion the first one did. I can say “read the codex session titled ‘X’” And they will know exactly what to do and do it effortlessly.
Comment by Narciss 21 hours ago
Can’t believe that people confidently spew blatantly false statements like this.
Skills matter, a lot, to every action that requires the AI to find stuff out, so that it doesn’t have to find the same stuff out again. Operating a website, building PowerPoints the way you like them, operating across different surfaces like APIs + GUIs…otherwise the AI has to relearn how to do it every time.
Be confident about things you know. Study about things you don’t.
Comment by lxgr 20 hours ago
Comment by picklenerd 16 hours ago
I feel like downloading a bunch of skills is another one of those useless collections people make purely because they have infinite options. It’s like those collections of thousands of bookmarks you’re never going to click or pirated ebooks you’re never going to read.
It’s trivial to write your own skills with agents. The best way to use them, imo, is to make them when you have repeatable agent workflows, written to your own personal taste, and updated as your workflows change.
Here’s what I have for reference:
- Remove agent-speak from code, docs, and markdown files.
- Ask sequences of questions the way I like to be asked questions. Used instead of the question tool. This is my primary design skill as well.
- How to use jj the way I want my agent to use jj
- Dispatch subagents with 6 different sets of priorities. Those priorities are defined in the skill, so I can always dispatch all 6 of them to write or review code. Includes a template for code reviews
- Manage a local MD issue tracker for personal projects
Comment by 70rd 15 hours ago
Skills are used to steer individual models towards desirable behaviors they don't exhibit by default. They're not Pokemon cards. They clutter your context, sometimes for essentially 0 benefit.
Comment by kbos87 16 hours ago
At work I'll occasionally repurpose a skill that someone else has shared as a starting point, but those skills are already somewhat customized to the environment I operate in.
I have all of my skills maintain a single table in a markdown file with a description of each skill, when it last ran, exceptions it encountered, and when it was last edited.
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Comment by jrockway 12 hours ago
You could also write a computer program to do this, but because so much random special stuff can come up during a multi-hour release, it's sort of great to not have anything hard-coded and to let a frontier model be there to assist you when things are weird. (Weird things that have come up -- hung kustomization controllers, release freezes, etc. When Claude notices during the release, you can just get a ticket to go fix it. When you're doing it manually, it would probably be a half hour of investigating "why didn't our release go here?". Such a time saver and a safety net on risky rollouts.)
So that's the sort of thing I use Claude for. Things that are computer-program like, but ad-hoc enough to not really want to write a computer program for it.
Comment by vorticalbox 13 hours ago
A skill can help so the model doesn’t need to relearn how to use said scripts.
Comment by alexhans 1 day ago
- Keep them organised in software repos that you install with symlinks for all coding harnesses that you have. Progressive disclosure based on the frontmatter does the rest.
- I make sure they work with AI evals. Think of them like integration tests to prove behaviour. They're useful to optimize your flows. I try to make my skills be mostly a translation between natural language and good small fast tools that they call.
- I change them as a new problem arises. Not just because.
Skills can't be eaten by model capabilities if skills represent a workflow that is custom to my team or my person.
I wrote about a good mental model in the past:
https://alexhans.github.io/posts/series/evals/building-agent...
Comment by stingraycharles 1 day ago
Like, ok, I have a debugging skill, now how do I make evals except for the most trivial things?
Comment by RicDan 1 day ago
This is also my biggest gripe with AI. I.e. for specifications, no matter what hype machine I tried, it never fulfilled my criterias, which are: easily verifiable, concise, small specs. Hence I built https://github.com/RicardoMonteiroSimoes/Yamlet initially for claude code, but then decided to use extend it for pi.dev. I now have a dedicated docker image for pi.dev, that only contains Yamlet plugin, and whenever I work on spec I spin it up.
The end result is a .yaml file that easily works in git + git diff, so that I can then proceed with the technical specs-
Comment by jurgenburgen 23 hours ago
Skills are for packaging instructions for how to interact with your organizations homebrew process and tools. By definition skills shouldn’t be useful outside of your org because they’re just docs and third party tools already have them for humans.
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Comment by hadlock 4 hours ago
To be fair it's the only skill i have/use but I got real tired of explaining the same 12 things over and over. Having it document every incident means I have a dense library of every problem we've run into over the last six months which helps identify recurring problems for RCA
Comment by TobTobXX 1 day ago
So you take your failed case (eg. working with gdb or whatever), write a skill and then test for that failed case.
Comment by hakunin 1 day ago
I imagine many fail cases can burn a lot of tokens/usage/time because failing LLMs can be very persistent. Maybe some upper bound (turn count, timeout) would help too.
Comment by mark_l_watson 19 hours ago
Comment by alexhans 16 hours ago
The idea would be that if you already know what you want from an autonomous system, you don't need to verify manually every time and instead just run these tests to see if there's any regression of any kind. Generally I recommend structure output and evals that are just a plain assertion, if possible. Cheaper, faster, deterministic assertions.
Does that make more sense?
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Comment by flurdy 23 hours ago
Though most of the time my skills are just things I found useful and could avoid repeating myself by having as a skill.
That I also use it to route model used with https://github.com/flurdy/pi-skill-model-router is also a reason
Comment by imadtaieber 19 hours ago
Comment by alexhans 16 hours ago
Think ~/.codex/skills/<symlink-to-myskill-a/
Same for ~/.Claude or any other tool that supports skills.
Comment by theahura 17 hours ago
Second, we share all of our sets of skills in a purpose built registry: https://noriskillsets.dev/ you can use any of our public skillsets from there. If you're on a team you can also sign up to get your own private registry. Makes organization much easier.
Finally, for local development, we use this CLI to manage skills (https://github.com/tilework-tech/nori-skillsets). This is a tool that lets you bundle skills into groups, and then switch between those groups. So for eg if I'm making a slide deck I'll use an admin skillset, and for coding I'll use a swe skillset, and for debugging I'll use a debugging skillset.
We do keep tinkering with our skillsets, but not very much. I don't get the need to adjust things for every model release, doesn't seem necessary for us in practice
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Comment by WatchDog 1 day ago
For general tasks, the model seems perfectly capable of figuring out things itself, for project or environment specific tasks, I just put that information in the readme or agents.md file.
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Comment by jbeninger 21 hours ago
I'm not sure if this differs greatly from skills. Maybe my wording makes these "skills" less likely to be read at the correct times, but I haven't seen an issue.
Comment by paool 1 day ago
Skills are more for things you do often. I run mutation tests, type check,linting,etc. I _could_ just prompt and copy/paste the same prompt each time I need to, or I can just run /tests.
I also have skills for specialized tasks I need every once in a while, like a ux skill, a text skill optimized for xyz, etc.
Comment by notatoad 13 hours ago
skills are just an agents.md broken up into chunks so you can manage and share them separately. unfortunately there's no real good workflow for managing or sharing them separately, so most people end up treating them exactly the same way they do agents.md.
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Comment by distances 1 day ago
This documentation is its own git repo, and the agents.md file has an explicit instruction to update the docs when it has learned something general that can be useful in future sessions. I then occasionally review and prune those docs.
Comment by oakesm9 23 hours ago
The description in the front-matter (at the top of the skill markdown file) is the only thing in the context and used by the agent to determine when to read in the rest of the skill file.
Comment by jve 1 day ago
Skills itself may be lengthy so...
Comment by ygjb 1 day ago
An example skill I have is SessionMiner, which is installed via post session hooks in Claude and Kiro, and analyzes the session, what was accomplished, and whether or not it should be turned into a skill, then when it summarizes it, the decisions it came to and either fires off a message to me for followup if it decides a new skill or tool should be built, or it catalogues the approach so that future analysis can identify trends in how I use the tools.
Over time it has built me a fairly decent stable of repeatable skills and tools, and highlighted process deficiencies and nominated process changes that I have pursued.
Another skill is a communications analysis skill; I started using it summer last year I think, and it scans my communications across a broad cross-section of my activity online. It tracks the commitments I make, ensures that I follow up with people that I might miss, ranks and scores my communication against my own personal targets that I set to make sure that I am communicating effectively. As a person who has had a decently successful career despite autism spectrum and unmedicated ADHD (I was medicated, but unfortunately each medication I tried had adverse side effects), it has made me much more effective in tracking work and following through, especially on the "boring" stuff that is actually critical to being a dependable team member, and effective partner for the teams I support.
Just a couple of examples.
Comment by hypfer 1 day ago
I can see what the goals are there, and they do make sense I suppose, but I'm not confident that what you're handing off there can be handed off to that degree.
But maybe that is not the point and the point instead is to see what the LLM thinks would be correct, and then think about that and collect learnings about the world from it. It might not be right, but it still tells you how normal people think. So that's useful.
Just a very roundabout way to achieve that, but that's fine, I guess.
Comment by ericmcer 15 hours ago
It is interesting how people delineate what is a "skill". A 50 word prompt can be called a skill. This process you are describing sounds like it is highly authed and polling or hooked into multiple apps (slack?, text messages?, email?, forums, etc.) and then piping output to an LLM and to generate reports that it pushes to you based on output. You might need some data store to hold all the different communications locally as well.
That is almost a full on app/service that uses an LLM for one layer, but it is still just called a "skill".
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Today Fable had to fetch a zip file from a web page with a eula prompt, then get at a file in a disk image in the zip.
This is something that will need to happen a lot as part of this project.
I asked Fable for a skill/script combo suitable for Haiku to accomplish the task, and now that task happens at minimal cost during an analysis run.
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I will often make a skill out of the docs for any of the frameworks or libraries that we're using but with which I'm unfamiliar. When I'm creating that skill, I focus on idiomatic implementation and usage. It's not enough for the code to work—I want it to work "with the grain" and "through the front door", as it were.
By default, these models are just all too willing to reinvent the wheel and monkeypatch as they go.
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Caching certain scripts so it's not reinvented each time with risk of error/need reviewing.
Comment by kkarpkkarp 1 day ago
I create/edit/delete at least one skill per day. I can't imagine working effectively without those files.
The most common case: if I see something took AI too much time and tokens and it is done, I ask my Cursor immedietly after to save it as skill. So next time I do the same I just refer to skill. I don't need to remember the name of the skill, I just mention something like "do {explaining briefly the task}, you have done something similar in the past and it is saved as skill"
Comment by sjanes 16 hours ago
Giving the agent an external tool to consider the sequencing of anything with dependencies led to some creative construction and offloading sequencing not unlike offloading calculation. (I also made a `bc` skill).
https://github.com/sj4nes/clanker-tools is where I've been riffing on this. My plan is to collect not "just skills" so much but "capsules" of reliable knowledge that agents can pull without confabulation. I'm already hitting the organizational stumbles, so this HN thread is right-on-time.
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I make sure they work by understanding every skill, reviewing pull requests, and testing the end product. The result is rarely perfect, so I am constantly tweaking the skills and how I use AI.
Comment by jve 1 day ago
The installation is effortless and I don't have to mess with symlinks as I may be working with same codebase on different platforms which would make things.. different.
codex plugin marketplace add "https://path-to-my-git-repo"
codex plugin add agent-tools@mycompany
claude plugin marketplace add "https://path-to-my-git-repo"
claude plugin install agent-tools@mycompany
Let the AI generate .json files for marketplace.Haven't got to these bits yet, but I'm sure they will work as easy as install does.
claude plugin marketplace update mycompany
claude plugin update agent-tools@mycompanyComment by chandureddyvari 1 day ago
Another thing i discovered is less is more (in case of skills as well)., don’t add lots of skills., keep them very handful - I’ve got 9 skills so far (many people have 100s installed from marketplaces and plugins)
Comment by floriangoebel 1 day ago
This is probably less relevant for code that exists a ton in the LLM training data already as an llm is probably competent to some degree in that anyway.
A big caveat here is though that now you need to treat your skills repo very carefully as mistakes in there can easily spread to all of the new code you write using a coding agent.
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Comment by ryandsilva 12 hours ago
To keep me organized, here's the directory structure I use. So I don't have to think about it, I've created a skill for my skill folder that files any new skills in this structure as I add / ablate any that aren't useful.
- `Discovery/` — Finding docs, searching, information retrieval
- `Execution/` — Running processes, CI/CD, releases, deployments
- `Planning/` — Goals, specs, tickets, threat models
- `Tools/` — Reusable tool integrations (browser, notebooks, CLI creators)
- `Debugging/` — Debugging, troubleshooting, fixing
- `Expertise/` — (reserved) Domain-specific deep knowledge
How skillshare helps: symlinks across agents, syncs to my GH, and for the few skills I've pulled in from other repos, it tracks and handles updates. Every couple of months I review which ones I don't use and remove them.Comment by bhkdotdev 20 hours ago
I've been working on a tool (https://dynobox.xyz) that acts as a deterministic integration test / behavioral test layer for some of the skills i've been working on / sharing.
It feels like a full eval suite is a bit heavy handed and really all I care about is if certain files are touched / left alone or if my skill is actually read. The tooling has much more functionality built in if you want to check it out!
For skill files / prompts I share I make sure that I use the cross harness functionality since I use codex but a bunch of my coworkers use claude (and then one using antigravity...)
Comment by ssivark 1 day ago
I maintain all my skill files in a central location (like dotfile management) and have guix home sync it to the skill folders of various harnesses that I'm playing with (codex, pi, antigravity, Claude Code, Deepseek harness, etc). They're set up to be bidirectional links rather than read-only like the default configuration, so I can keep editing them / adding to the corpus from any harness.
This works well for skills since all harnesses expect the same format, but is more annoying for other features.
EDIT: This is actually an example of a potentially useful skill. You might choose to manage your skills slightly differently. All you need to do is write a skill-management skill for your agents to be able to wire things up correctly / access them for edits.
Some other nifty skills/plugins in my experience: render latex equations, cetz diagrams inline, jujutsu, guix, code reviewer, writing feedback.
Comment by ssivark 18 hours ago
In the current version of my setup, I've decided to accept that tradeoff.
But it would also be interesting to check whether agent behavior can be controlled well enough by a skill-management skill telling them to synchronously commit any changes with their signature; that would get the best of both worlds.
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Comment by SillyUsername 1 day ago
1. A single Skill finder skill, loaded in the prompt, prevents having to import all the summaries in the prompt the harness would add. Uses git's own search.
2. Private repo, per agent, contains main (production) and draft-<name of skill> branches.
3. Shared repo, like 2, but general access for all group agents.
4. Fallback mode, search the harness for skills using the harness mechanism when a relevant skill cannot be found.
5. Skill audit cron. Identify junk skills / drafts that have never changed / not in any recent sessions history, and categorise monthly for me to decide.
This means it's compatible with existing skill folders, removal of git and the finder skill is non destructive and critically debloats the prompt of skills that aren't used and lazy loads them when needed.
Comment by yokuze 14 hours ago
Then, I use this tool:
https://github.com/a1st-dev/aix
to keep my Claude, Codex, and OpenCode in sync with my config.
The major benefits are that my adoption/deletion of skills, rules, hooks, MCP servers, etc. are deliberate, versioned, and shareable.
And since aix allows you to create extensible configs, that aix-config public GitHub repo is my base set of rules, and my internal/employer-specific rules are just a small layer on top of that.
It also makes trying out different subscriptions easy: you define your config in one place (one source of truth), and write to Claude, Codex, Devin, etc. with one command.
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There's also a command you can run to convert your Claude config to what Codex expects: `aix sync claude-code --to codex --dry-run` (just drop the --dry-run flag if the result looks good to you).
More here: https://aix.a1st.dev/editors/migrations/how-to-migrate-from-...
Feel free to suggest any improvements or features you'd like to see, or let me know if you find any bugs.
Comment by jdxcode 23 hours ago
i used to be a bit bearish on skills—thinking that llms should just use --help, but i've come around on that. i think skills are a great way to describe higher level workflows that use multiple commands.
Comment by mstr32 1 day ago
https://github.com/genged/capshelf
Using capshelf I manage my skills across projects. When I start a new project I can just:
$ capshelf add security-review
From the skill repo.
And if I create a new skill I can promote it to the repo so everyone can install it:
$ capshelf promote security-review
It pins the skill content hash so there are no unexpected edits that can break your flow. It also supports MCP configs and agent configs.
Comment by jameshiew 1 day ago
> Do you keep improving them over time?
In my global AGENTS.md I have a note to agents to explain any frustrations they had doing a task, and to suggest any skill/tool/AGENTS.md improvements. I am trying to keep AGENTS.md files small but still finding the balance.
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Because it's from Microsoft and sounds sufficiently enterprisey probably.
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- Explanation: https://www.minid.net/2026/7/14/how-to-automatise-with-ai
- Git source: https://github.com/meerita/monorepo-nextjs-golang-rust-pytho...
Comment by cowanon77 22 hours ago
Create a standalone prompt to <xyz>
The latest AIs will print out a long prompt with all of the assumptions, tools, and general files it plans to use. Review that, and then run the whole prompt in a new context.
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One thing I've had to write as a layer on top of it is a way to assemble agent-specific CLAUDE.md / AGENTS.md from fragments.
For example, I have a little fragment that has all agents respond to me in ordered list format. (Since they often ask a bunch of question all jumbled throughout a response, the ordered list format allows me to respond to those specific questions.) And I also have a growing anti-Claudeism fragment as well.
Then I combine this with project-specific fragments and have it assembled into into a single CLAUDE.md / AGENTS.md. The layer also does a little reporting on the length of the resulting files and notifies me if it ever grows beyond a certain size.
Comment by osr00 1 day ago
I try to keep my collection of community skills short, usually a few established names (mattpocock, mcollina, trailsofbit). And then I check new releases (or when mattpocock published a youtube video for instance :D)
> keep them organized
For skills I wrote myself, I have my own private github repo. I use skills like /commands most of the time, so I can tell if they work straight away.
For community skills, a package manager really helps. vercel-labs/skills and withastro/rosie are good options. I also built one myself: https://github.com/osrim/ski. It has some cool features like an update command and a security scan.
Comment by sinuhe69 23 hours ago
If you work in a niche or on special problems, this template could be useful.
Comment by invaliduser 21 hours ago
I have like 3 skills, and so far so good, most of my recent changes have been asking Claude to please stop using metaphors and creative figures of speech that make the documents so much harder to read and understand (maybe it's only annoying to non-native speakers, I don't know)
Comment by mceachen 18 hours ago
Be sure to increment unofficial plugin versions when you make edits: codex's auto-update works reasonably well, claude not so much, but when asked, both can fix their own config.
And like others have said, imho the skills that are incanted as macros are much more reliably useful. I use my technical project plan skill suite in 90% of my sessions via direct reference, and the stage -> cross-model second-opinion review is how I land all my commits.
Comment by threecheese 16 hours ago
Here’s the spec I used for my skills repo:
https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/d37077a6-2cdd-4961-b504-b...
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Maybe better to periodically prune: tweak some skills, shorten some, delete some.
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We have a bootstrap script to deploy company-managed skills to each developer's "personal" skills. Hooks for codex and claude code try to refresh the skills on each startup.
Comment by toffelx 1 day ago
I have a configuration file of marketplaces and other skills to fetch, it can look like. I have my own marketplaces as well, including ones from my company. I use vercel's tool for managing skills with npx, but to easily handle specifically _which_ skills to fetch, the config file is set up as follows:
SOURCES = {
'some-marketplace-name': [
'some-skill',
'another-skill',
'yet-another',
],
'https://designsystem.yourcompany.com': [], (empty list: fetch all skills)
}
from there I simply run "skills.py" (a single helper) to clean/fetch updated versions of the skills.Comment by woadwarrior01 18 hours ago
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It's the best thing I've come across (that I don't need to mange myself) https://github.com/p3bot/start
The tool itself does more than just manage skills/prompts but I found that part of it particularly good (well new to me; not familiar with cue but the idea seems like a good fit)
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by the way Alan kay was right, tech is pop culture. We keep re-naming things.
Comment by hellectronic 1 day ago
You can have your own skill repository with Skillshare and sync across agents (symlinks or copys).
Comment by mark_l_watson 19 hours ago
The first dimension is easy: I simply keep copies of debugged skill files in iCloud and copy them where I need them.
The second dimension is where I spend my time: I use short skill files for fast inference APIs and tiny skill files when I am running slow local models, and I simply spend a lot of time writing and tuning tiny skills files.
Of course, with increasingly better models, skill files become less relevant, but not totally irrelevant.
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And sometimes it doesn't follow the instructions well. I have a skill for that too: it tells the agent, given what it knows about attention and LLM:s in general, to evaluate the instructions and the mistake the LLM made, try to diagnose why it didn't follow the instructions as expected, and come up with an improvement of the skill based on that diagnosis.
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Source at navikt/copilot
Comment by pglevy 19 hours ago
For evals I use the method outlined in the `skill-creator` skill from Anthropic.
In the skills, I try to use scripts, along with templates and json worksheets, as much as possible to scaffold and validate the work to make things more consistent and reliable.
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full disclosure: I'm the author
Comment by nickreese 18 hours ago
For instance… how to deploy a service or new service’a docker container. Get secrets in value blind, manage secrets value blind. Those sorts of things have been wildly valuable. Also due to the nature of skills and how they are pulled in by your harness they can really prime the context in a way that is really useful to agent autonomy if that is your thing.
Comment by hypercube33 1 day ago
There is a rule to always use this skill and then track notes in a version file. Then back it up in a share folder or external drive.
Skills have made my tools immensely better, cheaper to use and faster. I've also added to it that it should write scripts it can just use in the future to do tasks like query information it needs to answer questions.
I wish there was a better way to share these over a team but I haven't taken that time yet.
Comment by ekns 20 hours ago
E.g. https://github.com/eliask/lawvm/blob/master/AGENTS.md
EDIT: Ah, but what I do instead is I constantly refer to my various public essays. I think it's very useful to have externalized thinking like that available for use with LLM contexts.
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I tried to control the execution of tasks performed by each project using claude.md within the project, but claude.md is only read at the beginning of each session, so it felt like the instructions weren’t being properly reflected.
So I revised the strategy to manage frequently used features in skill units. In doing so, instead of organizing skills by project, it was structured to be integrated into the general skills of the individual repo.
When skills are spread out across multiple projects and the number increases, it becomes impossible to keep track of which skills are available, so they end up not being used.
I also think that eventually, once Claude(model) advances, it will be able to replace most of the skills, so I believe registering and managing countless skills actually degrades performance.
Comment by serf 1 day ago
a model capability is never going to fill in an unknowable blank that a custom skill (or whatever equivalent your paradigm supports) can.
a model might have the cleverness to whoami and look through the .ssh folder for keys and evidence of past connections when asked to connect to bob, but a skills file can just easily say "We connect to bob using key Z and user X." so that the operation gets done without all this nonsense needless inference as far into the future as the information is valid for.
a concise information dense skill is going to always dominate on tokens-burnt for any given task that requires insider knowledge. it simply gets rid of the entire investigative phase of work.
Comment by TomEleff 1 day ago
This of course is from my own experience writing code, where agents are already good at software engineering conventions. This probably doesn't hold as well for other tasks, say writing marketing copy with a unique voice
For now, I keep skills pretty minimal - single sentence prompts I send all the time, like "Remove all the slam poetry from the docs in this repo."
I also tend to share often. All skills go into a repo my team can access. No pressure, use them, riff on them, add your own - sharing and engaging on how we do the work is more important than making everyone do the work the same way to me.
Comment by imadtaieber 1 day ago
But, for custom use skills, ofc no model will be able to replace them and it's not efficient to try to do that as well. For this type of skills I create and maintain them by myself, my question was about "general use" skills, they are everywhere on the internet, how do you manage them?
Comment by SyneRyder 1 day ago
I know everyone's down on MCP, but custom-built client side MCP tools are what I find useful instead. But that's me.
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Can you explain what this means?
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Eventually you arrive at building custom software that does a lot in the traditional way, but delegates certain tasks to the model where it makes sense or it's non-trivial/impossible to express via code.
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Caveat: It works for Claude Code and Codex, but does not work for Claude Desktop.
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You also need to manage the authority of each skill too. Signed skills is a step in the right direction, but it only proves provenance and doesn't prove behavior.
Comment by blackhaj7 14 hours ago
I ideally want to have a single place I store my skills with an easy way to make them available to my repos, Amp and ChatGPT desktop/iOS, Grok web but can’t see a way
Comment by yokuze 14 hours ago
Though it does not support ChatGPT (just the Codex part inside of the ChatGPT app), or Grok web (yet).
But it does encourage you to keep versioned config in one spot. You can also commit repo-specific config to any project that has specific needs, and translate that config into . That can be helpful when working with a team or an open source project that needs to support a variety of agents/tools.
It currently supports 8 editors/agents: https://aix.a1st.dev/editors/supported-editors/
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This could be to try and expand the capabilities of the model but in it can be used to store personal preference/workflow/organisational knowledge/improved efficiency etc. The harness could work through and build some of this on its own - but it's much more efficient if it has a document it can just look up. I use them for the database structure and it's quirks, how to use branded document templates, external document tone, system workflows, compliance requirements etc.
I wouldn't want these to load every time but being able to call them is really useful.
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I've been using this heavily the past 6 months to solve exactly this problem: https://github.com/a1st-dev/aix It doesn't support Grok (yet) though.
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All skills, MCPs, CLIs, etc. live inside of it. I have it symlinked to all my dev machines so that it doesn't have to be an MCP.
`capsule` is then progressive to dozens of skills/tools thru `capsule` -- ex. `$capsule plannotator [args]`.
In some harnesses, I make it human-invoke only, and call it directly. In others, I let the model invoke it, and it has a top-level description that hints at what's inside.
Maximal context/session start control and capability extension.
Comment by ramon156 1 day ago
I keep most of my sessions in Zed (you can import them there anyway). After some big feature I let a frontier agent go over these sessions and suggest improvements. Typically I use gemini for this because it's really good at pruning text. Claude/GPT really wants to append more text for some reason.
I end up with smaller skills but more "actioned" skills. They kind of force the agent to do things the way that works well.
Comment by sznio 1 day ago
Everything is organised into repos, i select the directories with the context the agent needs for the task. If I want it to adjust something in my homelab, I drop it into the homelab repo. Stuff agents need to do commonly has shell scripts to speed it up.
I do however have some system prompts. I pick the prompt based on the goal, whether I want to implement something, or just web search, or just need a short one-off command to be done.
Comment by brokegrammer 23 hours ago
I don't need to manage skills files because I have so few of them and they're only a couple lines long.
Comment by glub 19 hours ago
They get pinned with nix together with the software that they come from.
It's just two 3rd party skills now:
playwright-cli and herdr.
All the rest are skills for the software itself, so they live in the same repo and get updated the same way docs get updated.
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I built Skill Grill, an open-source directory and community trust layer for AI agent skills.
Its live now at https://skillgrill.dev
I'm not sure about posting links in threads but this project needs community backing in order to work and its free :)
Its still in MVP stage, but feedback is welcome
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I allowlist one going over our issue management system, and a few around internal processes I believe have value (basically very short pointers at OpenAPI specs for making HTTP reqs - could probably be in the repo AGENTS.md but w/e).
When opening a new repo I'll look if any skills look like they actually give helpful context and aren't Claude vomiting out a torrent of text (over)fitting some insanely specific use case and allowlist those.
Or give up after too much exposure to vile AI created text.
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For me, it's like a dev script basically and gets that level of care. I don't need an eval... I'm the only user and I use it like 5 times a day.
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1. Personally - these are for apps I use like Codex. This one is pretty simple
2. For our product (which is mostly an internal tool, with minimial customer facing UI) - we have a skills factory that lets our employees create reusable instructions for our internal agent (fully custom built harness with routing). User describes the task and writes the instructions (can attach reference files, etc.). Custom skills and their versions are stored in postgres, with attachments in file storage. The assistant loads those instructions and references when it uses the skill. To update a shared skill, users edit a draft, test it, and submit it for review. Once approved, that version becomes live. Skills can learn or rewrite themselves from conversations (cuts a new draft and prompts the user if they want to update/improve the skill).
EDIT: I should say that our employees have a particular set of expertise and knowledge that make skill sharing insanely useful. Which is why I took the time to build this out. It's helped reduce manual work, and has increased our AI usage drastically. We also measure AI output (in terms of quality) and the reduction in slop has sky rocketed.
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No need to over complicate it. Write down things you feel like re-using. Like how to specifically implement something in your system ("when adding a new API endpoint we need to do x y and z", or "when making a github PR we tag Æ and Å") so you don't have to repeat it. And I mostly add it in cases where it didn't infer it itself. So very reactive, not proactive.
Most public skills are useless and over complicated. Lots of people are spending too much time on their harness, than actually making stuff.
Edit: but do get inspired by public ones. For instance a "grill me" skill can ve be useful, but I find the public one very mumbo-jumbo. But the idea of forcing the agent to ask clarifying questions is good.
Comment by Achshar 1 day ago
So I like to do all the edge case handling and validation etc via a helper function, and the agent is simply instructed to call the function to do something. It is extremely powerful and a completely different way of automating things. I am constantly forced to re-think how computers are supposed to work and its limitations.
Comment by hypfer 1 day ago
Are there any "skills" at all that have proven to be useful? And if so, what's the context?
Because, for me anyway, LLMs usually do one thing, and that then produces a durable artifact. So the prompt that got me there by that point expired and is not really needed anymore.
I also occasionally have recurring tasks (rarely though), but there, the prompt to do stuff is embedded in code that orchestrates the doing, so I have no use-case for that either.
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For the "add this endpoint" example you've described, I just throw commit IDs at the clanker and say "go do that again". That works, and doesn't decouple knowledge from code.
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i then A/B test skills for terseness with weco’s auto-research within this using a much weaker model e.g. Qwen 3.5 4B
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I only want the model to have the tools it needs to get the job I ask of it done.
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There is this urge to create a non-ephemeral library of at least something.
Comment by cainxinth 16 hours ago
It makes as much sense as the so-called “humanizer” tools that purport to make LLMs stop using their well-known verbal tells.
All you are doing is saying: “Hey you know that thing you can’t stop doing? Can you stop doing that?” The machine will say “Absolutely!” but eventually start doing it again.
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All of my skills are custom to my workflows except Contextify (more on that at the end) This extends to how I distribute them across multiple development machines.
They live in my `cli-ai-setup` repo alongside agent settings, git worktree tooling, iTerm workspace restoration (important, machines have to restart and crash sometimes), code review scripts, and machine setup guides. I use git to carry changes between machines and a setup script to symlink the skills into a shared directory that Claude Code and Codex both use.
I have a `skills-and-settings` skill specifically for deciding where new skills belong and how to make them available (project, global, application). I also have a custom `skill-create` skill that turns sessios into new skills or updates existing ones.
Importantly, I also have entire custom applications I have not yet made open source that my cli-ai-stack relies on. I do expect to distribute these so they live in their own repo and are symlinked or installed in as appropriate.
For maintenance, I've largely handled this manually and organically. When a skill is not performing, I'll use the context of the situation as the ~1 shot or pull in more examples for the ai:
This skill seems to not be performing as expected on [something].
This has happened a couple of times now use /total-recall to find similar recent situations for example [something I remember]"
Recommend updates to the skill and upon approval commit and push them...etc.
My other machines watch this repo and the symlink structure means that the updates are carried into live cli-ai sessions almost immediately.This past week I was exploring the automatic skill improvement behavior described in the Anthropic blog guest post with their partner org. I'd previously build a "dreaming" skill that works okay and think there may be some value yet to plumb there.
For skill creation, I have a skill that reads the official skill docs for both Claude Code and Codex. This way the skills are built to handle both platforms particularities. I automatically pull those docs into local Markdown daily, so it has a regularly refreshed reference for what each tool supports.
As mentioned above, I have built Contextify (https://contextify.sh) which provides a sql database of all of my Claude Code an Codex session transcripts across all of my development machines. The skill for this (/total-recall) is the most important skill I have and I use it constantly.
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- start with zero skills
- add a skill if you encounter behavior that you want to ward against or if
you want to associate a meaningful phrase with a certain method of doing things
- NEVER copy a skill from someone, do not clone skills repos, do not let LLMs
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This largely works with a specific model, specific harness, specific prompt, specific context. You may need to modify your agent harness to manage skills depending on runtime parameters. Pi is a great general purpose agent for the these modifications.
If you do find other skills and want to use them, put them through the loop above. But keep in mind that since they were created in their own circumstances, they may not work in yours.
Also separate rules from skills. Rules tell AI when to do things, skills tell AI how to do things. Tool call/MCP limitations, agent configurations, and harness extensions, can help it stay on track.
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Making sure they actually work? Trial and error, mostly. I know some folks have tried auto-researcher approaches, but I haven't found that to be the best use of time in my work.
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it has all the skills/docs my particular application needs
i treat it as ADRs as it helps the AI understand the parts of the system it is working on
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I'm seeing the agent working quite fine with just direct prompting and the agent doing things by itself rather than using skills. Is it better for certain task size?
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https://mininote.ink/docs/mcp-docs
Agent can use mcp to update its own skills, or I can copy template skills into local dorectories via the api. Very useful, like notion on steroids but is completely free.
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You wrote some bullet points so your agent harness doesn't keep making builds in the wrong environment? You have a very specific debugging setup? Your agent doesn't understand when to rebase?
README is where you should be writing anything specific to your project, and if you're worried about context size then your README is too long, it should be just enough information for any competent dev or agent to get the gist of how you do things around here and where to look for deeper answers.
If your particular harness / orchestrator is just not pushing back enough or can't seem to solve certain problems then thats a tool issue, either edit the tool system prompts or move to better tools or models.
Calling this 'skills' is disingenuous, this word was chosen by marketers and implies some kind of deeper learning. I'm not saying there's no value in tuning prompts, but your 'skills' should be managed in only 2 ways: 1. It's specific to your project, it's a README, or 2. It's specific to your tooling, it's part of config, system prompts etc.
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the readme and agent.md are not the right places to put long workflows worth of llm instructions, and also isnt the right place to put global details.
skills also get a piece of text injected into context all the time, so the agent gets a hint to go read and follow the whole thing, without needing to embed the whole definition into context all of the time.
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