D2 Is Non-Profit

Posted by alixanderwang 1 day ago

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Comment by dacort 1 day ago

Really happy to see this - A few months ago the D2 `play` site looked like it was down or unreachable and I was pretty bummed. It came back, but it did make me wonder about the future of the project - awesome to see that TALA will be released, sorry to hear the company behind it is shutting down.

Comment by aninteger 1 day ago

Just to be clear, this doesn't seem to be based on Walter Bright's D language. Maybe people already know that, but I didn't.

Comment by keyle 1 day ago

It's pretty clear when you visit the website though.

Comment by Nail2680 1 day ago

It isn't since there is not much about what it is!

Comment by sourweasel 1 day ago

The first sentence of the main site is "D2: Declarative Diagramming - A modern language that turns text to diagrams", followed by multiple code snippets and the resulting diagrams.

Comment by Nail2680 1 day ago

I click the thingy and don't see that, I know D2 as the big language split for Dlang, I click around, I still can't tell what this is.

Comment by OneDeuxTriSeiGo 20 hours ago

It's diagramming software? Like plantuml or mermaid? It says it right on the tin and with all the examples.

Comment by wps 1 day ago

> D2 thus far has been a product of handcrafted code. That era is over. This next phase of D2 will be driven by AI. By this, I mean that all of my contributions will use AI.

This is an interesting twist. While I get the rationale, I remain a bit concerned. I do hope the project remains successful, d2 is great!

Comment by margalabargala 1 day ago

This is going to be really interesting.

What does the future of new programming languages look like in the era of AI?

Comment by _def 1 day ago

I'm confused - why is hackclub (a project dedicated to teens) financing this project maintained by an openai infra person?

Comment by alixanderwang 1 day ago

They sponsor many popular software projects unrelated to their mission. It helps bring awareness to what they do and they also take a 7% cut of donations to fund their operations. I probably could've elaborated on this more in the post. See https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-non-profit, which goes more in depth and is how I first became aware of them!

Comment by derpyzza 1 day ago

that's what i'm thinking, this doesn't seem to be a teenager to me based off of them saying that they've been programming for 10 years ( though i suppose they could have started when they were <= 8 years old ), but i can't really find any information on who exactly the founder is, or why hackclub would sponsor them.

Comment by OneDeuxTriSeiGo 19 hours ago

How does D2 handle larger diagrams with lots of connections?

This has been my issue with PlantUML and Mermaid. The routing tends to blow up when you have a bunch of lines that run out to a thing (i.e. rather than snaking together they just go everywhere).

Comment by IshKebab 5 hours ago

Yeah unfortunately it doesn't handle hypergraphs IIRC, i.e. one edge going from a single node to multiple other nodes.

Comment by sea-gold 1 day ago

So is TALA[1] continuing to be developed and/or being open sourced?

[1] https://github.com/terrastruct/TALA

Comment by sea-gold 2 hours ago

Open source announcement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49604150

Comment by alixanderwang 1 day ago

Yes, I'm planning to open-source it tomorrow.

Comment by dacort 1 day ago

In the post it says "I'll be making posts as TALA and D2 Studio are released." so I assume/hope so?

Comment by aitchnyu 1 day ago

Tangential, do LLMs generate D2 code as easily as Mermaid and do tools like Github and Confluence render them?

Comment by morningsam 3 hours ago

>do LLMs generate D2 code as easily as Mermaid

Yes

>and do tools like Github and Confluence render them?

No

Comment by nf-x 1 day ago

Oh, does that already integrate with GitHub? Need to check how it deals with layouts and arrows in comparison to Mermaid

Comment by 0x696C6961 1 day ago

I like the mermaid sequence diagrams more. But D2 for everything else. No GitHub integration yet though.

Comment by triyambakam 1 day ago

> D2 thus far has been a product of handcrafted code. That era is over. This next phase of D2 will be driven by AI. By this, I mean that all of my contributions will use AI. I welcome AI contributions and will use AI to review your AI, etc. The exception is writing -- I will author all blog posts and comms without AI.

Really cool, seems like the right balance.

Comment by crazy1_ 1 day ago

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