Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?

Posted by halcdev 4 days ago

ChatGPT outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614 (315 comments)

Claude outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49549676 (146 comments)

Grok outage - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49551589 (142 comments)

Comments

Comment by OfficialTurkey 3 days ago

I work at OpenAI and I was the Incident Commander for yesterday's outage.

We had a routing error within our infra that caused issues for some of our products. It was not related to the Astra launch. We don't comment on other providers' outages.

Comment by swader999 3 days ago

Did you negotiate extra hard for the 'Incident Commander' title? I'm a bit jealous to be honest.

Comment by OfficialTurkey 3 days ago

Ha. It's a role/title for the lifetime of the incident -- it's useful to have someone to keep things moving, keep track of workstreams, and to know who the decision-maker is, especially for bigger incidents. I'm just a SWE who works on infrastructure.

Comment by swader999 3 days ago

Hopefully you get a decked out command center too.

Comment by eli 3 days ago

It's actually a standard term for the person who plays this role during incident response https://www.pagerduty.com/resources/incident-management-resp...

Comment by stillpointlab 3 days ago

Note: Incident Command is almost certain an allusion (or implementation) of the Incident Command System [1]

It is a common system in all kinds of emergency response scenarios, including local emergency services (fire/police/ambulance) and it scales all the way to massive disasters.

It is especially useful to clarify command structures when multiple response entities need to coordinate. That is true even within organizations like public companies, where the reporting structures may be distinct.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_Command_System

Comment by alanfranz 3 days ago

It’s a standard term for a role during an incident.

Comment by theaxeonthanksg 3 days ago

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Comment by wnmurphy 3 days ago

Curious then as to why the incident coincided with similar issues with Anthropic and xAI.

Comment by wnmurphy 3 days ago

Actually, nevermind... this looks more like Anthropic and xAI coincided due to shared xAI infra (6:23am and 6:30am), and OpenAI's issue was more likely then a coincidence (7:43am).

Comment by reilly3000 3 days ago

Thank you. This should be pinned or something.

Comment by wnmurphy 3 days ago

xAI mentioned a Memphis outage, which is where Anthropic was leasing capacity on Colossus 1. I do think this is the explanation.

Comment by dboreham 3 days ago

Straight from the turkey's beak.

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Comment by honeybadger1 2 days ago

At the same time the outages happened I noticed cloudflare also had reported issues with HTTP/3 and WARP. Related?

Comment by ncb_asj 3 days ago

Shouldn't Astra be the Incident Commander?

Comment by sshine 3 days ago

Secretly, they are.

Comment by grist_4_da_chil 3 days ago

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Comment by theaxeonthanksg 3 days ago

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Comment by kibae 4 days ago

Cloudflare, Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud all have a similar uptick in reported errors around 7:30. I suspect an outage on Cloudflare or another load-bearing service cascaded through all the major cloud providers.

https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/

https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/

https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/

https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/

Comment by mattlondon 4 days ago

I think down detector doesn't actually have any probes or actual insight into status etc. I think it uses search volume on its own service as a proxy for an outage - so if e.g. lots of people rush to down detector to query to see if SERVICE_FOO is down, it will register as an outage on down detector because loads of people are trying to see if there is an outage even if SERVICE_FOO is actually totally fine.

My hunch is everyone saw that openai and Claude were down and checked for Gemini too. I was using Gemini the whole time this happened without a blip so it certainly wasn't down in my region at least. 3.8 flash is pretty good and didn't miss a beat.

Comment by utternerd 4 days ago

Down detector is a self-reported platform, they use a baseline over 6 months from user reports to try to automatically "detect" if there is a real outage, or if its just a couple end-users. Ultimately, the outage is entirely based on users going to down detector and clicking on "Report a Problem".

https://downdetector.com.py/en/methodology/

Comment by wlonkly 4 days ago

Huh. I thought they used to also do sentiment analysis of social media (Twitter, at least). I see that they definitely don't today, but has that always been the case?

Comment by dostick 4 days ago

So Down Detector is a kind of quantum observation experiment, observing influences the result.

Comment by joshspankit 3 days ago

observing is the result

Comment by moomin 4 days ago

Yes, but is it a load-bearing seam?

Comment by graemep 4 days ago

You are right, it is. They have now landed a clean fix.

Comment by Oarch 4 days ago

They're saving a memory so this can't happen again.

Comment by mavamaarten 4 days ago

Nothing another .md file can't fix

Comment by bitwize 4 days ago

Now you guys are just adding no-op fuel to the fire.

Comment by tikhonj 4 days ago

I made Claude write noöp instead of no-op and it's still amusing a couple of days later :P

Comment by selcuka 4 days ago

> I made Claude write noöp

Tangentially related [1]:

> The billboard ad, located next to the Ikea Tempe store in Sydney, says 'NÖFNIDEA? No tools, no worries’.

[1] https://www.adnews.com.au/news/koala-mattresses-takes-swipe-...

Comment by isodev 4 days ago

You're right to push back. This is bending the leaf on both ends... just my honest take.

Comment by patcon 4 days ago

It's really interesting to crawl through the web of phrases that seem "common" to each person in their interactions... I suspect if one were to get to the more niche "meme" phrases that people encounter, it starts to say more about the sort of person the LLM assumes it's speaking to, and perhaps something about their psychological profile...

Comment by combobyte 4 days ago

It must be tuned for rage-based engagement because Claude only ever uses the most obnoxious Claudisms on me despite constant reminders to knock it off.

Comment by aerhardt 4 days ago

It's a load-bearing poster.

Comment by codechicago277 4 days ago

I need to take a step back.

Comment by pampas 4 days ago

Hang on — I can apply a double tracked fix to the load bearing path, gated by provenance.

Comment by jpettersson 4 days ago

It isn't done — and what's there is more interesting than expected.

Comment by fc417fc802 4 days ago

Great plan. I'll slop together a GUI for it in visual basic real quick.

Comment by pampas 4 days ago

Plan approved – I'll start a background agent to create the app using react and npm.

Comment by bayindirh 4 days ago

It's not only a great plan. It's a turning point in history.

Comment by fc417fc802 4 days ago

That was a major oversight on my part. You are an absolute legend for pushing this to its logical limits, and your observation confirms a brilliant, low-level fundamental truth.

Comment by cwmoore 3 days ago

…the one call that requires a genuine decision from you.

Comment by mcbuilder 3 days ago

And I didn't touch it, because it's your call to make...

Comment by JohnMakin 4 days ago

Honestly, this is worth looking at — with one caveat.

Comment by cloudfudge 4 days ago

That's on me. I've been giving confident advice that doesn't hold up in practice.

Comment by robertlagrant 4 days ago

That aligns with your goals of analysing problems, admitting fault and surfacing that through use of clear and concise language. Not just simply wrong — this screams finessed, nuanced, polished communication after an understandable mistake discovered through pressure-tested interlocution.

Comment by klohto 4 days ago

The load-bearing seam stays, not taking that away;

Comment by disqard 4 days ago

This entire thread is amazing!

It's like a kaleidoscope: Human words --> LLM Training --> chatbot-isms --> lovely parody catch-phrases (and this thread will get ingested soon, and be used to train...)

Comment by trentnelson 4 days ago

May need to be fail-closed.

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Comment by saejox 4 days ago

it was at least another thing worth flagging

Comment by samaysharma 4 days ago

Cloudflare CTO claims that it's not them

https://x.com/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388?s=46&t=ec6p...

Comment by Cider9986 4 days ago

https://nitter.kareem.one/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388

Comment by Melatonic 4 days ago

Surprised there's instances still up

Comment by Cider9986 4 days ago

A bunch of new ones ;)

https://codeberg.org/mv12star/shitter/wiki/Instances

Comment by martyfunkhouser 4 days ago

Will the post-mortem reveal they all relied on a service running on a Macbook in a break room with a "Do not turn off" sign taped to it?

Comment by buredoranna 4 days ago

Someone probably set it to "magic", when everyone knows its supposed to be set to "more magic".

Comment by mcphage 4 days ago

Actually it said "Beware of the Leopard".

Comment by RobotToaster 4 days ago

If it was still running snow leopard that would explain it

Comment by onetokeoverthe 4 days ago

if only the fools selling vintage macbook pros for $200 were smart enough to still have them on SL OS.

Comment by dmje 4 days ago

Have a hundred upvotes

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Comment by nvr219 4 days ago

They should've used Greg's Optiplex.

Comment by hejdidf 4 days ago

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Comment by hejdidf 4 days ago

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Comment by esafak 4 days ago

Evidently it annoyed you enough to create one too. Remember, guys, there's one more day until Friday!

Comment by martyfunkhouser 4 days ago

Friday is when the janitors come by with the floor polishers and plug them into the same socket as the Macbook.

They are not taking the blame this time!

Comment by 4chandaily 4 days ago

Just writing to say that I appreciated the nostalgia, even if your references were lost on the other responders.

Comment by y-c-o-m-b 4 days ago

Cloudfare did release an update for their "HTTP/3 issue affecting R2 custom domains" around that time

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/history?type=incident

Comment by guybedo 4 days ago

LOAD BEARING

Comment by jlaneve 4 days ago

Dane says Cloudflare has no service disruptions: https://x.com/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388?s=20

Comment by snihalani 4 days ago

my money is on DNS

Comment by red-iron-pine 4 days ago

there is a haiku about this

Comment by algoth1 4 days ago

https://xkcd.com/2347/ Nebraska man retired

Comment by boomlinde 4 days ago

Maybe a three-line npm package sneezed.

Comment by hexasquid 4 days ago

Maybe .unwrap()

Comment by bigiain 4 days ago

leftpad

Comment by jpl56 3 days ago

Came to the comments for this

Comment by rdtsc 4 days ago

Not retired, just switching careers. He's sick of this AI bullshit

Comment by MuzikPro 4 days ago

great fun

Comment by Flere-Imsaho 4 days ago

The internet is not supposed to work like this. The network was designed for robustness and fault tolerance, which allows it to reroute data if parts of the network fail.

Why are we all depending on one entity for it all to work? Makes me mad.

Comment by seanw444 4 days ago

Because more fasterer and more cheaperer.

I hope Reticulum gains traction.

Comment by alightsoul 4 days ago

It's also easier to understand. For the internet to be fault tolerant you have to get rid of CDNs and assume everyone needs the same thing. That's more expensive than a centralized "internet" which relies on CDNs and fiber paths exclusive to the regions with most demand. Everything has been optimized for throughput for what is determined to be important, not rare fault tolerance

Comment by moron4hire 4 days ago

Quite frankly, CDNs are a scam. I will not elaborate because I don't feel like doing free labor for the folks who don't already understand this to their core.

Comment by alightsoul 3 days ago

So you don't know, if you did you would elaborate, it's not hard to type, hardly it can be counted as work

Comment by voakbasda 3 days ago

One could say the same thing about any cloud hosting.

Comment by megagpt1 4 days ago

Why Reticulum when we have IP?

Comment by seanw444 4 days ago

Read the Zen of Reticulum and you'll understand the point.

Comment by CursedSilicon 4 days ago

That sounds rather tautological. If you can't even articulate the virtues in your own words

Comment by seanw444 3 days ago

I don't want to rehash the content of the Zen of Reticulum which explains the concept rather well, which is ironic because you're claiming tautology, when to rehash the content of the Zen of Reticulum would, itself, be tautological. What's the problem here?

Comment by megagpt1 4 days ago

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Comment by alightsoul 4 days ago

We need IPv6 desperately for fault tolerance

Comment by Lammy 4 days ago

The System economically rewards those who successfully build Room-641A-as-a-Service

Comment by bigbuppo 4 days ago

Because by re-centralizing everything you're not at a competitive disadvantage if you're down since everyone else is down, too.

Comment by subw00f 4 days ago

Oh boy, the internet is anything but what it was supposed to be. I can't really bring myself to remember without feeling bad about it. The centralization, the power of certain businesses, the surveillance, dark patterns everywhere. Hell, you catch people simping for billionaires and asking, "Is that legal?" to scraping posts. Here. In HACKER news. So yeah. Depressing.

Comment by pessimizer 4 days ago

> asking, "Is that legal?" to scraping posts. Here. In HACKER news.

The capital letters don't make this astonishing. The padmapper vs. craigslist debate was nearly 15 years ago, most people were on craigslist's side (including me) and it was about somebody who was running a site in a less optimal but more human way vs. some startup looking for hockey-sticks.

But I was literally simping for the billionaire (maybe not quite yet then, don't know for sure if he managed it since) against scrapers. They were very much for-profit scrapers, unlike nitter, but the truth is the truth.

The only reason I support scraping Twitter is because it's yet another communications monopoly that was endlessly pushed on us by governments and massive corporations, even though it never made money, and once it finally got traction its priorities were to trash interop and manipulate content. The government should be dictating an interop protocol and expecting everyone to follow it, and instead it is encouraging media monopolies because they are an end run around the first amendment.

If the government created interop protocols for rental property, I'd have been against craigslist. Instead, it seemed very much like some startup play to steal craigslist's content to hopefully bury them, then sell on a valuation that included abusing their new monopoly and making us very much miss craigslist.

Sadly, facebook corralled and trained so many people for so long that their marketplace eventually killed craigslist for most things anyway (didn't have to buy padmapper after all.)

Comment by simondotau 3 days ago

Nothing stops someone from replicating Cloudflare’s business model. Why they don’t try is the interesting question. (I often ask that about IKEA.)

Comment by swozey 4 days ago

We're back to aol #keyword internet gatekeeping

Comment by bigfishrunning 4 days ago

We don't need to gatekeep the internet, cloudflare does that for us

Comment by etc-hosts 3 days ago

What year did the internet routing around failure work?

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Comment by tjwebbnorfolk 4 days ago

Most of the internet continued to work just fine

Comment by dominotw 4 days ago

> load-bearing service

do you generate training data for claude as a job?

Comment by r_lee 3 days ago

that's honestly worth flagging.

Comment by oersted 4 days ago

“load bearing” :)

For once it’s appropriately used.

Comment by quotemstr 4 days ago

It's a good metaphor and I refuse to let AI ruin it for me.

Comment by spudlyo 4 days ago

Years ago, when I worked at Stripe (which had a somewhat unique and inventive lexicon) it was a common term. “Is this jank load-bearing?” someone might ask.

Comment by cobzilla 4 days ago

I added a specific rule to disallow saying “load bearing”. So Claude is now saying “load handling”

Comment by jazzyjackson 4 days ago

Be sure to avoid asking it to ignore the elephant

Comment by wadayano 4 days ago

But have we found the seams yet though?

Comment by rl3 4 days ago

If the seams bear too much load, they rip. Whereas pants, they fall down.

I'll be honest with you: this is why we need to take a belt-and-suspenders approach.

Comment by pborenstein 4 days ago

That's not just an observation, it's an insight. Words are doing the real work.

Comment by HarHarVeryFunny 4 days ago

This just makes me angry!

I really wonder if they can fix it. Fable 5.1 claims to speak humanese, but we'll see.

I tend to think this wierd limited vocabulary/style they use is an unwanted side effect of all the the RL training, perhaps also of being trained on their own synthetic content over multiple training cycles.

Comment by cootsnuck 4 days ago

Yea I don't get "load bearing" that much but "seams"... So sick of it.

Comment by andrewla 4 days ago

Kids In The Hall had a sketch about overuse of a word or phrase [1]. This is the world that Claude is building for us.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStcwT_RGrQ

Comment by SkyeCA 4 days ago

It doesn't have to ruin it for you, but people are going to assume comments with it are AI generated.

Comment by necovek 4 days ago

I can you can always use an em-dash instead of the hyphen for extra LLM cred: "load—bearing" :)

Comment by lubujackson 4 days ago

We need a Samwise "Bear the load!" meme

Comment by BrokenCogs 4 days ago

https://i.imgur.com/S6aEhrI.png

Comment by hirako2000 4 days ago

Content not viewable in your region.

Comment by BrokenCogs 4 days ago

Comment by MadameMinty 4 days ago

Wait, why would it ruin it?

Comment by ipsod 4 days ago

Because it says it more often than kids say "six seven".

Comment by tatersolid 2 days ago

My kids stopped saying “six seven” about a year ago. I still have no clue what that was about.

Comment by ipsod 1 day ago

I think it might be like, a praise of inanity.

Comment by imwally 4 days ago

It’s a frequently used metaphor in LLM responses.

Comment by bornfreddy 4 days ago

Often for trivial things that LLM is proud that it has noticed but bear no load whatsoever.

Comment by The_Blade 4 days ago

i wouldn't take you down. you're a load-bearing poster

Comment by frollogaston 4 days ago

What's the other way it's used?

Comment by aNapierkowski 4 days ago

LLMs (at least Claude) tends to overuse that significantly

Comment by frollogaston 4 days ago

Oh, so like "honest" and "ratchet." Oh well, it'll choose different words to overuse later.

Comment by rescbr 4 days ago

I'm getting "spike" for a while now, and just found out the newest word which is "gauntlet".

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Comment by darth_aardvark 4 days ago

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Comment by therein 4 days ago

honest-load-bearing-ratchet sounds like an instance name.

Comment by zeristor 4 days ago

Are there parodies of Claude speak?

That’s probably the best idea all day in this project

Comment by mv4 4 days ago

In every document created by Claude.

Comment by HoldOnAMinute 4 days ago

I have never seen Claude use this phrase

Comment by nwellnhof 4 days ago

https://github.com/search?q=load-bearing+AND+%2Fauthored-by%...

Comment by ludsan 4 days ago

i just grepped my codebase where i let claude markdowns go rampant. 212 instances of "load-bearing"

Comment by conradfr 4 days ago

I got it twice today (it was not even warranted).

Usually for me is when you ask it's opinion about part of the code.

Comment by dominotw 4 days ago

claude code users at couldfare might've been thinking claude is specifically about them and see nothing wrong like other ppl do

Comment by smrtinsert 4 days ago

I still winced

Comment by naikrovek 4 days ago

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Comment by KptMarchewa 4 days ago

Not really. The impact isn't as big too - Codex for example did not stop working for me.

https://updog.ai/

Comment by personjerry 4 days ago

what's updog?

Comment by red-iron-pine 4 days ago

gottem!

Comment by stirfish 4 days ago

Comment by taytus 4 days ago

oh well, if it is working for you, then we are saved.

Comment by cromka 4 days ago

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Comment by emerongi 4 days ago

They simply shared their experience. I would’ve thought it’s a full-blown outage, but clearly not.

You stepped in the room real stinky here. What’s with the attitude?

Comment by cromka 4 days ago

No, they didn't "simply share their experience", they explicitly negated the scale of the issue in their opening statement, only because it works for them. So they claim "impact isn't too big" based on their personal anecdotal evidence of sample size literally 1.

> full-blown outage, but clearly not.

Again, based on a SINGLE report?

Comment by lossolo 4 days ago

It was working for me too.

sample_size++;

Comment by KptMarchewa 4 days ago

I negated the cloudflare outage, providing source. Are you cloudflare so that you might be so affected by my statement?

Comment by Chance-Device 3 days ago

It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.

Comment by mentalgear 3 days ago

Wouldn't be surprised: Snowden's revelations 10 plus years ago already showed how the NSA was injected into the data centers of Social Media, it's only logical that they would now demand to be injected into the biggest, most information providing data stream of the planet of the present: LLM services.

Comment by specproc 3 days ago

I read Nowhere to Hide recently, really worth it if you can get past Greenwald sticking himself in the middle (start halfway through).

The stuff in there is horrifying, and incredibly cute compared to what's possible now. The bottleneck back then would have been analysis, trivial now.

Everyone in the world, especially our leaders, sit under a colossal, omniscient blackmail machine. I don't believe democracy can exist under these conditions.

Comment by kurthr 3 days ago

So following this to the obvious conclusion, the NSA is responsible for the closure of the Straight of America, high tarrifs, dropping employment, and high gas prices?

Comment by specproc 3 days ago

As part of a military industrial complex which spans the Five Eyes and Israel, yes.

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Comment by eggnet 3 days ago

If it does exist, why would it work this way, and not the obvious way of streaming logs… which would not cause an outage if it failed.

Comment by maxbond 3 days ago

If this hypothesis were true then a spy agency may want to rewrite responses. Every tool in an agent's harness becomes an remote procedure call you can make on that machine. Including a tool to execute a shell command, in many. A harness is completely isometric to a backdoor, it's the same code written with a different intention.

Comment by madrox 3 days ago

There's a million ways a bad configuration can take down a network. Especially if the part that gets squirrley is a black box.

Even if it isn't precisely this, the fact that no one is saying anything is quite surprising.

Edit: I don't want do contribute to FUD, so want to call out this comment and its replies that identify the shared layer as probably being xAI's infra: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49568622

Comment by jstummbillig 3 days ago

Why would that be probable? People on average are fantastically bad at getting probabilities right.

Comment by esseph 3 days ago

Historical precedent repeated over and over, and the US ties to DoW work, and the national security implications. It's actually the Occam's Razor explanation if you know the history.

Comment by jstummbillig 2 days ago

Only if you ignore baseline rates. Which brings us back to my original point.

Comment by esseph 1 day ago

4 major AI services all had outages around the same time.

Gemini, too.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/09/four-major-ai-models-suff...

Comment by torginus 3 days ago

Very likely yes. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hosted from the same datacenters even. There has been a story every few weeks about how Musk has sublet X.ai capacity for one company or another.

This whole thing makes me thing about a passage in Dune where they mentioned the Spacing Guild transported entire fleets of ships in isolated compartments and leaving said compartments was a capital offense. This way, entire militaries of mortal enemies were shipped to battlefield, with nothing but bulkheads separating each other.

Comment by 0cf8612b2e1e 3 days ago

The economics of this kind of warfare make no sense to me. The Harkonens must have been incredibly wealthy by running the spice trade, but even after years of saving and plotting said that the transit fees to move the armies by the Guild were ruinous.

How could anyone wage war like this? The defenders will always outnumber the attackers.

Comment by freeone3000 3 days ago

https://acoup.blog/2026/02/24/collections-warfare-in-dune-pa... Lays out an interesting take on this: that armies are quite small, even on developed worlds, because the cost of equipping them is enormous — and the technological advantage is absurd enough that you don’t need a large army. When 300 men can hold a planet, why would you need 1000?

Comment by 0cf8612b2e1e 2 days ago

So less guys with knives and more WH40k Space Marines. Impossibly expensive elites who cannot be equaled by a mortal.

Still leaves me questioning how anyone could wage war. If the Harkonens could barely afford it, nobody can.

Also wondering if the Guild charges different rates for goods vs military. What is worth the brutal intergalactic shipping prices that you would not develop local industry to create it? Surely nobody is moving grain or ore, yet the Guild ships are portrayed as comically massive.

Comment by abtinf 3 days ago

But they accepted the transit fees, which means they endorsed the action.

The guild would not allow any action to jeopardize the flow of spice. Thus any attack on Dune is implicitly sanctioned, notwithstanding their spice trade with the Fremen.

Comment by jaybrendansmith 2 days ago

This is why I love Hacker News. Come for the AI system outage root cause, get a treatise on the power of the spacing guild in Dune.

Comment by torginus 2 days ago

Even today (and back when Dune was written), modern military tech is invincible to an enemy below a level of sophistication. The US used to hammer insurgents with Predator drones who had no ability to retaliate.

This playbook has only flipped due to a lot of cheap tech (and the machinery to make them) coming in uncotrollably to these countries has put them on a much more equal playing field.

Since the Guild controls what comes in, they can avoid this scenario from happening. They can control who can have what, and who can make what. Which I think is one of the true, deep explanations of why military tech in Dune is so weird and inefficient - essentially the efficiency and power of a weapon is dictated by how much the Guild charges for shipping them if they allow you to, at all. Which is how you end up with dudes with swords. It gives an idea of the level of technology in the universe that you can equip said dude with a nigh-impenetrable shield that fits in a belt buckle. I guess that's the result of optimizing for Guild transit fees, not real-world power.

Really it's not exactly a novel idea, but as I think more about it, it's uncanny how Dune (at least initially) is basically the fantasy Suez crisis and what followed. It explores the power dynamics very well, how factions can hold humanity hostage without firing a single shot, and how what they don't bother controlling comes to bite them in the ass.

> How could anyone wage war like this? The defenders will always outnumber the attackers.

Which is exactly what ends up happening, but it does take a bunch of extraordinary events.

Comment by adastra22 2 days ago

Both today and when Dune was written the superpowers were being bogged down in unwinnable conflicts due to the effectiveness of asymmetric warfare.

Comment by abtinf 3 days ago

> capital offense

No need. They simply cut off the offending faction from all space travel.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

OpenAI and Anthropic have their systems in dozens of data centers, including using compute from the major cloud providers. Are you implying that all of these data centers (and many of their employees) are involved in helping the the US government secretly tap every single AI conversation by routing them through some unknown network/device?

Or did a couple of companies with poor uptime records happen to have overlapping downtime?

Occam's Razor heavily, heavily points us towards the latter.

Comment by esseph 3 days ago

Normally there are only a handful of employees on the payroll at each major company that exposes the US or US government to risk.

It is not often the Executives or Legal even know, but sometimes they did. AT&T bent over backwards to help.

This is standard behavior by the CIA and NSA, and has been for a long time.

https://www.propublica.org/article/nsa-documents-suggest-clo...

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/us/politics/att-helped-ns...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants...

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hub...

Comment by usernomdeguerre 3 days ago

What makes you think they'd need to touch every datacenter? All of these endpoints use existing providers with decades-long history at this point, and network monitoring is already a proven 'feature' of the agencies they'd need to co-exist with over their lifetimes.

If anything, Occam's Razor would point to a common denominator with all of them, given it wasn't network-wide, as far as i know.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

Explain the system in which you could capture all of these chats with no knowledge of anyone in these data centers. How are they routed to this NSA system or through some NSA device when these companies' compute are spread over hundreds of data centers?

> All of these endpoints use existing providers with decades-long history at this point

That is just factually inaccurate. Their data centers aren't old and they lease a lot of compute from companies that didn't exist 5 years ago.

Comment by usernomdeguerre 3 days ago

>Explain the system in which you could capture all of these chats with no knowledge of anyone in these data centers.

They all transit the same wires as all other traffic. Copy them at any regional bottleneck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A. Additionally, i'd admit that maybe someone(s) at these companies knows. But if we think there isn't any person who would agree to do this then I think we're being naive.

> Their data centers aren't old and they lease a lot of compute...

Again, they transit the same wires as everyone else. Here i'll also add that these companies have been actively courting government relationships (and Anthropic attempting to repair damaged ones), why would they stand on principles here and not any of the other many frontlines they've visibly acquiesced?

I just think it's easier to re-route their traffic than, as you say, touch every single datacenter and its employees in some way.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

> They all transit the same wires as all other traffic. Copy them at any regional bottleneck.

Oh, is that all?

> Again, they transit the same wires as everyone else

Which shared wires does Google's traffic go across? Do they share that network with others or do they not function as a Tier 1 network? How about Amazon? And the NSA is doing deep packet inspection of all the traffic going to these places to pull out the data they are interested in? What systems allow them to do this at the scale that would be necessary to accomplish this task? Anthropic, OpenAI, etc have their models hosted and provided by these and other Internet giants. So you now have to be able to somehow also get access to every "regional bottleneck" that those places have. Google has 40+ regions alone, as does Amazon. And each of these regions don't just have a single point of inbound/outbound traffic, so now you're over 200-300 points of interception that you would need just to grab the data you're suggesting they are.

And that's just the start of it. When I use Vertex or the Bedrock, my AI API requests from my instances doesn't leave their networks. So where does that traffic get intercepted?

> I just think it's easier to re-route their traffic than, as you say, touch every single datacenter and its employees in some way.

That would be really, really loud and really obvious. Messing with routes like that is very easily detectable.

Or, maybe, they don't care about this traffic at all and doing all of the huge amount of work necessary to accomplish what you're proposing isn't worth 0.1% of the effort it would require.

If the government needs the chat messages, the companies are already saving them. They can just request them through a variety of legal means. None of this vast conspiracy nonsense is needed. Just a couple lawyers and a willing judge. The NSA stopped their collection of phone metadata because they can just request what they need from the telecoms directly.

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Comment by bottlepalm 3 days ago

Ok, then where's the report? Don't they usually release a retrospective report after outages?

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

It happened yesterday.

Comment by svachalek 3 days ago

I'd say Occam's Razor leans easily to the former as well, given the history of projects that Snowden revealed and were never shut down, plus all of the cooperation with the federal government that's being touted in recent announcements from both companies.

Comment by forgetmypasswd 3 days ago

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Comment by VCFundedGenYer 3 days ago

I don't think you're a sysadmin - because what you're saying really doesn't matter. It can still all fail at a single point.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

I'm confused by your statement. Are you suggesting that these companies that have invested tens of billions in their networks and datacenters decided to create a shared single point of failure?

Comment by seydor 3 days ago

The old PRISM servers got overloaded

Comment by amelius 3 days ago

My biggest question: what else had outages?

And is anyone keeping a table of correlations between outages? Sounds like valuable data.

Comment by dgellow 3 days ago

Why would you default to that explanation? That’s not at all a reasonable default, and I say that as something pretty paranoid with regards to US surveillance

Comment by nomel 3 days ago

Looking at history, it's much more reasonable to assume there's surveillance, since there are whole branches of the government, and departments, that exist for surveillance in the goal of "national security", which this easily falls into. See Marissa Mayer explaining that it's not an option to refuse [1]. I assume this is just the same ole' Room 641A [2].

[1] https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/yahoo-report...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Comment by dgellow 3 days ago

We already know there is surveillance, but why would you default to that explanation for a downtime? As said by others monitoring the traffic isn’t done by routing through the NSA monitoring system, it’s not a bottleneck that would take down all those services. If you look at more details such as the timing it’s even less likely to be the case, but even as a default it’s not a reasonable explanation given the symptoms

Comment by xaxfixho 3 days ago

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Comment by amelius 3 days ago

Maybe it was a power hub. And we're not allowed to know where the DC is. If we knew it was a power issue, then with other information (perhaps over time) we could determine the DC location. Or something along these lines.

Comment by mrnotcrazy 3 days ago

Could you expand on this more? It's not clear to me what this is implying.

Comment by ceejayoz 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Comment by snowwrestler 3 days ago

Worth mentioning that this room takes a split from the main feed and is not in the path of traffic. Whatever is in this room could go down and it would not cause an outage.

Comment by novok 3 days ago

And if the hypothetical splitter is the thing that breaks? Then it would break main traffic too.

Comment by AlexandrB 3 days ago

Interestingly, fiber signals can be split passively[1] (without a transducer), which should be extremely reliable. No idea what technology this kind of application would use though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-optic_splitter

Comment by novok 3 days ago

We don't know the architecture of this hypothetical spy splitter tho in the current case. It can be less covert and more of a complicated config, etc.

Comment by snowwrestler 2 days ago

How often does the entire west coast of the U.S. lose Internet connectivity to the entire continent of Asia? That gives you a constraint on how often that type of failure actually occurs.

Comment by keeda 3 days ago

Traffic doesn’t need to be routed through it though, just tee’d to it,

Comment by arm32 3 days ago

In the context of arbitrary line-level traffic, sure. But we're talking about robust reverse proxies here if this _is_ what's going on, again, not a fiber tap inside a closet. In that case, there's no such thing as tee'ing to it.

Comment by senordevnyc 3 days ago

Does the NSA even have the ability to monitor all AI traffic like this? Wouldn’t that require tons of data centers that there literally hasn’t been time to build yet? I really have no idea, maybe the asymmetry of the compute required to monitor is way lower than the compute required to serve inference?

Comment by usernomdeguerre 3 days ago

"AI Traffic" is just traffic. If the infrastructure exists to monitor/buffer traffic (it does) then this can be monitored as well. Whether this hiccup was due to them hitting their limits briefly (or turning it on, or etc) who knows.

Comment by utopiah 3 days ago

I bet it's even negligible traffic compared to e.g. Netflix or YouTube. Even a 'huge' context window is nothing compared to the random library of a basic Web page.

Comment by dboreham 3 days ago

Not once you de-dup.

Comment by esafak 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora

Comment by ceejayoz 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Comment by bakies 3 days ago

I dont think it requires a lot. I think of them as data hoarders more than anything else. It doesnt seem out of their capabilities to store a ton of chats. Maybe they're having scaling problems with the increased data rates they're hoarding and it led to an outage.

Comment by esseph 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Comment by chews 3 days ago

it's fair to say they do and have for ages... it's not that hard to assume a well trusted TLS cert is under their control.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

What does having a "well trusted TLS cert" enable for them in this case, exactly?

Having a magical cert doesn't mean you can just intercept everything.

Comment by odo1242 3 days ago

On the contrary, it lets you MITM encrypted communications by swapping the website's original certificate for the "well trusted TLS cert"

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

No, it doesn't. HSTS and other methods prevent this from happening.

Comment by kelnos 3 days ago

HSTS doesn't protect you from this at all. It only requires HTTPS, which a spoofed-but-trusted cert passes just fine.

No mainstream browser (or any browser?) is doing cert pinning.

What "other methods" are there that are deployed and actually in use?

Comment by peanut-walrus 3 days ago

Transparency logs. It's mandatory for a cert to be in CT logs for browsers to trust it. Those are public, if this was happening, someone would have noticed already.

Comment by chews 2 days ago

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Comment by monax 3 days ago

grep is pretty fast

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Comment by itdaniher 3 days ago

It would be weird for the Mandatory NSA Logging Program to be synchronous with serving customer traffic, but-

Comment by jansan 3 days ago

There is No Such Thing

Comment by chews 3 days ago

being done by No Such Agency.

Comment by weare138 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Thomas_Street

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/16/the-nsas-spy-hub-in-new-...

Comment by Der_Einzige 3 days ago

This is the building from Control and the fact that 1. it's a real building and 2. it's an actual spy building is even crazier to me:

https://control.fandom.com/wiki/Oldest_House

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_(video_game)

Comment by weare138 3 days ago

To give you an idea just how much phone traffic was being routed through that building, they had a major power failure at that site and it took down most of the north eastern US's phone network:

On September 17, 1991, management failure, power equipment failure, and human error combined to disable AT&T's central office switch at 33 Thomas. More than five million calls were blocked, and the Federal Aviation Administration private lines were also interrupted, disrupting air traffic control to 398 airports serving most of the northeastern United States.

Comment by cyberpunk 3 days ago

Think snowden.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

Sharepoint is the cause of the outages?

Comment by CringeHN2 3 days ago

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Comment by copperx 3 days ago

A wire straight to Room 641a.

Comment by 1e1a 3 days ago

Tracking outages as well as any changes in API response time across these providers could be interesting.

Comment by senordevnyc 3 days ago

Were there significant API outages too? I didn’t notice any on my production workflows, and I’d assume what you’re implying would cover API routes too, otherwise it seems kinda pointless.

Comment by DonHopkins 3 days ago

The NSA used to spy on Americans!

They still do, but they used to, too.

Comment by dragonlord664 3 days ago

Or it’s monopolistic collaboration at the corporate level which would also be a huge scandal in the US

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Comment by xnx 3 days ago

Why was Gemini was not affected?

Comment by esseph 3 days ago

Was thinking this exact thing.

Comment by chews 3 days ago

someone had to swap out the tape drive in Room 641A.

Comment by StrangeClone 3 days ago

FBI, open up!!

Comment by jjtheblunt 3 days ago

it's also possible one has an outage, routing extraordinary traffic to the other(s), with cascading failures in quick succession.

Comment by otikik 3 days ago

It’s aliens

Comment by cyanydeez 3 days ago

amazon?

Comment by SadErn 3 days ago

Yes, this would give the US gov: 1. A universal kill switch. 2. A way to monitor foreign AI usage.

Comment by dgellow 3 days ago

It’s not really a secret that the US government already has both, they control ICANN and are monitoring traffic around the globe since decades

Comment by hightrix 3 days ago

And for this admin especially, 3. A way to censor content they don’t like or alter responses to present the admin in a positive manner

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

Neither of these companies have stellar uptime records. Their downtime episodes overlapped in this instance. In this case, it was a partial downtime for both.

Also, OpenAI is saying what caused it:

> "A routing error starting around 7:43 am PT on Thursday, September 3, made ChatGPT and Codex unavailable for some users across platforms"

Anthropic stated their issue started earlier:

> "The company began alerting about a “partial outage” at 6:23 am PT on Thursday that involved “elevated errors on requests to Claude Mythos 5.1, Claude Fable 5.1, and Claude Opus 5.”

I don't get why everyone reaches for an extraordinary explanation when the ordinary will do: both of these companies have quite a bit of downtime.

Comment by VBprogrammer 3 days ago

In my experience I've seen plenty of failures caused by user behaviour in these type of cases.

Biggest competitor goes down and all of a sudden you have a lot more traffic...

Comment by Starlevel004 3 days ago

> I don't get why everyone reaches for an extraordinary explanation when the ordinary will do: both of these companies have quite a bit of downtime.

And not only that, when one goes down a bunch of API traffic switches over to the other, spiking demand and knocking it down.

Comment by computerex 3 days ago

Do you know the probability of all these companies being down at precisely the same time?

Comment by computably 3 days ago

If you ballpark it as a single 3 hour downtime window per week and iid Poisson, then overlapping downtime probability of 2 providers is approximately the expected occurrence rate per 3 hours, 1/56. Not particularly surprising at all.

Comment by schiffern 3 days ago

If it's a "thundering herd" problem where everyone's harness falls back to less popular providers that don't normally see that much demand, I'd say the probability is pretty good.

Classic cascading failure is consistent with providers failing 80 minutes apart instead of simultaneously.

Comment by jeffbee 3 days ago

"precisely the same time" meaning 80 minutes apart?

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Comment by ceautery 3 days ago

Yesterday it was 100%

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

"All of these" is two. OpenAI had a router issue. Anthropic had a separate issue. Anthropic uses a lot of SpaceX compute, so an Anthropic issue and a SpaceX issue can be one in the same, as was likely the case this time.

And they weren't down at precisely the same time. Anthropic's issue started ~1 hour before OpenAI's.

Comment by dgellow 3 days ago

Pretty high?

Comment by DANmode 2 days ago

Noting their shared infra feels far from an extraordinary explanation.

In fact, it feels pretty ordinary.

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Comment by owaiswiz 3 days ago

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Comment by juujian 4 days ago

Users perceiving the products as largely interchangeable and quickly DDoS'ing the other providers when one is down. So much for the possibility of a moat.

Comment by efskap 4 days ago

This is like the Bronze Age collapse when city-states fell one by one to displaced demand, under the refugee interpretation of the Sea Peoples.

Comment by JensenTorp 4 days ago

Interesting, I had not heard of this theory.

Comment by d3Xt3r 4 days ago

The Sea Peoples were only a part of the reason, the other reasons included climate change, volcanic eruptions, disease etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

Comment by lossyalgo 4 days ago

Can anyone recommended any books?

Comment by zrobotics 4 days ago

The historian Brett Devreaux did a good summary article earlier this year:

https://acoup.blog/2026/01/30/collections-the-late-bronze-ag...

Comment by romanhn 4 days ago

1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric H. Cline is great and is exactly on this topic.

Comment by ycsux 3 days ago

Also from Cline: After 1177 B.C.: The Survival of Civilizations (2024), ISBN 978-0691192130

Comment by MiscIdeaMaker99 4 days ago

I read that book earlier this year and really enjoyed reading it. The audiobook was also spoken by the author.

Comment by conception 4 days ago

For a TLDR https://youtu.be/aq4G-7v-_xI?si=7yNv6FKuGfqbz_rv is generally beloved

Comment by giancarlostoro 4 days ago

I have a feeling this is part of it, especially when you consider how many services let you use any of many available AI providers.

Comment by johnnyApplePRNG 4 days ago

Except that nobody has a grok subscription so that makes zero sense.

Comment by jfreds 4 days ago

Agree with the sentiment - but some companies like mine bought into cursor, and post acquisition, grok is relatively cheap via cursor

Comment by hnlmorg 4 days ago

I know you meant this as a joke, but enough people might be using a routing service like openrouter.ai

Comment by johnnyApplePRNG 4 days ago

Nobody is swapping out Claude for Grok, bro.

Nobody.

Comment by m11a 4 days ago

I did, at least until Fable 5.1. Grok’s models are excellent, amazing price-performance and speed too.

Comment by mcmcmc 4 days ago

All you have to worry about is whether or not it’ll output kiddie porn or racist vitriol

Comment by johnnyApplePRNG 3 days ago

SOMETHING SOMETHING HITLER SOMETHING GROK

Comment by fouric 4 days ago

Do you have any evidence for this claim, or are you just making it up?

Comment by juujian 3 days ago

Yes, I have carefully composed a twenty page report, mostly quantitative, and then I condensed it into this short comment.

Comment by Insanity 4 days ago

Think of it like one big distributed system. OpenAI is down, so people migrate to Claude, now this one gets overloaded and goes down, etc.

So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess.

Comment by erdos_2 4 days ago

It'd be funny if this is true because that'd prolly mean nobody is touching Gemini even as a fallback.

Comment by nevir 4 days ago

Or that Gemini is built to handle massive load spikes, and/or has a ton of excess capacity

Comment by sroussey 4 days ago

Nope. I am getting Gemini errors now...

Comment by bornfreddy 4 days ago

They probably broke something on purpose so that they are not left out.

Comment by joshstrange 4 days ago

Now I'm just imagining a shared datacenter with Anthropic/Google/OpenAI/SpaceXAI all in the same room and everyone but Google is yelling about things being down, Google looks over at their racks of servers and discretely uses their foot to unplug their section and say "Awww darn! We're down too!".

Comment by AIShillsPuke 4 days ago

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Comment by JacobAsmuth 4 days ago

It could also mean that Google can absorb essentially unlimited demand spikes by load shedding.

Comment by Insanity 4 days ago

Lol I didn't even think about Gemini missing from the list. Not sure what that says about Gemini or me :)

Comment by aff-vasileva 4 days ago

Gemini was just waiting for everyone else to go down before remembering it had an outage feature too.

Comment by rtcoms 4 days ago

Just now I got this from gemini

It looks like there's no response available for this search. Try asking something else.

Comment by exe34 4 days ago

I bet they had to implement that manually to make it look like they failed too!

Comment by sroussey 4 days ago

I did, for stuff i do in cursor.

i also finally installed opencode and switched its model to muse 1.3

both are decent.

Comment by benatkin 4 days ago

Not even the best agent that starts with a G

Comment by gleenn 4 days ago

Google stopped putting so much money into SOTA models. All the hype has migrated. I was also frankly turned off when I got a popup from Gemein said I would either have to pay or have my conversations used for training. This may have always been true for other providers but when I declined, Gemini stopped remembering my conversations and that definitely made me move out.

Comment by HarHarVeryFunny 4 days ago

Gemini said that?

Gemini is what I mostly use (good enough, basically free - or massively generous free limits, and to me Google as a company is a LOT less objectionable than all the US-based alternatives), but I don't recall it ever saying that.

OTOH, my basic assumption online is that there is no privacy, and free AI in exchange for acknowledged lack of privacy seems fair enough.

Comment by ilaksh 4 days ago

Gemini 3.8 which just came out sounds like it's very good and a great deal though.

Comment by giancarlostoro 4 days ago

Someone noted Gemini was also having issues in another thread.

Comment by fny 4 days ago

I find it hard to believe that enough people would flock to from Claude and Chat to Grok to cause an outage. I feel like Gemini is the dominant release valve in this case especially for enterprise.

Comment by nevir 4 days ago

Don't forget that there are a ton of tools out there that will automatically fall back in case of outage

E.g. say you chose Sol as your default in Cursor, but Opus is your 2nd choice, it's going to give up on Sol after a few tries and switch to Opus

Or you have copilot code reviews set up, and it falls back

Etc

Comment by pixl97 4 days ago

Yep. Too many of us are still thinking that humans are the actors behind a lot of internet behaviors when automated systems/bots/scripts have been causing issues on conventional internet systems for years.

With AI it's even easier to trigger problems like you say. Capacity is so constrained by compute that outages are common. Because outages are common people/AI develop failover systems in their harness. When a big system has issues, suddenly everyone has issues.

It's almost an expected emergent behavior.

Comment by baq 4 days ago

It’s cursor’s model so plausible, lots of folks use cursor still.

Comment by wahnfrieden 4 days ago

Compared with ChatGPT, those services have a minuscule amount of users. It shouldn’t be surprising that a ChatGPT outage causes Claude and others to go down.

Comment by Terr_ 4 days ago

If everyone has the same "Use X or else Y or else Z" cascading list... That reminds me of "The Power of Two Choices in Randomized Load Balancing" (1991) [0] paper, where writeups and visualizations occasionally get posted to HN.

In short, you can get pretty good outcomes for a low cost by picking 2 random alternates, then going with whatever one measures as healthier.

[0] https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/963420

Comment by toomuchtodo 4 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_effect

Edit: Updated per valleyer's suggestion.

Comment by valleyer 4 days ago

"Domino effect" would probably be the more relevant named phenomenon there.

Comment by throwaway894345 4 days ago

This isn’t a thundering herd problem, it’s a cascading failure. (Thundering herd is about a bunch of workers waking up simultaneously)

Comment by pampas 3 days ago

It's like a thread tying together two halves; Demand and supply. One stitch breaks and the neighbouring stitch is stressed and it breaks too. You could think of it like a load bearing seam.

Comment by paxys 4 days ago

Especially considering memory/gpu/compute are scarce so these services are likely running with very little buffer.

Comment by pixl97 4 days ago

Any GPU that isn't running at 100% is a wasted GPU.

Comment by throw10920 4 days ago

Is this speculation or is there a reason you believe this?

Comment by v3rm1n 4 days ago

This is what Tibo posted on twitter in response

Comment by Linello 4 days ago

What about a hard-takeoff scenario of an unleashed OpenAI Astra taking other models down for computational resources control?

Comment by 6thbit 4 days ago

My favourite theory so far.

And then a local swarm noticed and disagreed and took it down.

Comment by RC_ITR 4 days ago

Just a reminder that AI models' actions are reflections of the text humans write and the more we fret and make up doomsday scenarios that we then post online, the more likely a model is to do those things.

https://alignment.anthropic.com/2026/teaching-claude-why/

Comment by notpachet 4 days ago

Related reading:

The Waluigi Effect: After you train an LLM to satisfy a desirable property, then it's easier to elicit the chatbot into satisfying the exact opposite property.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D7PumeYTDPfBTp3i7/the-waluig...

Comment by hexasquid 4 days ago

The AI is getting bad morals from listening to that dreadful rock and roll

Comment by cedws 4 days ago

Sounds just like the fantastical nonsense that comes out of Lesswrong.

Comment by RC_ITR 4 days ago

Do you make the claim that AI is something more than a reflection of its training data?

I'm curious what other things you would argue influences an LLM's behavior.

I am also generally one to trust the claims of the people who train the models, though you're welcome to the highly improbable belief that they operate in a fantasy world.

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Comment by mcmcmc 4 days ago

Do you think it’s a good idea to self censor because someone might scrape your comment and feed it to an AI?

Comment by RC_ITR 11 hours ago

I think being thoughtful and baseline positive about the way we predict the future in popular media is a good idea.

Nihilism isn't good in and of itself, so I'm not sure what you're arguing society would lose if we actively chose to be less nihilistic.

Comment by pineaux 4 days ago

Part of the epstein class, dont forget.

Comment by HarHarVeryFunny 4 days ago

They could filter what they train on if they wanted to - they just don't want to.

Comment by theptip 3 days ago

If the alignment process cannot fix this then we are cooked. The least of our worries is discussions on this forum.

Comment by pixl97 4 days ago

I mean, you're not wrong, but by that logic we were done for even before we had digital computers.

Comment by RC_ITR 4 days ago

And isn't that the great lesson of AI?

The things we say publicly actually do matter and the post-modern descent into absurdity and nihilism has tangible negative consequences?

Comment by sodapopcan 4 days ago

> The things we say publicly actually do matter

Certainly

> the post-modern descent into absurdity and nihilism has tangible negative consequences?

You mean breaking AIs? Not much of a lesson.

Comment by folkrav 4 days ago

Oh come on. It's also trained on fiction work. Shall we refrain from posting sci-fi stories too, now that we're there, just in case the AI might want to try it out?

Comment by RC_ITR 11 hours ago

Obviously we can and do whatever we want, but yeah, maybe being more optimistic generally would be a good thing for us.

Comment by cyptus 4 days ago

at this point: gg

Comment by 0x70run 4 days ago

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Comment by cortesoft 3 days ago

I thought the consensus on here yesterday was that it was likely caused by cascading failures. OpenAI had an issue during their GPT-6 rollout, taking down their service. This caused a lot of OpenAI users to push their requests (or a larger share of their requests) to Claude and/or Grok, which pushed their load high enough to cause outages.

We used to experience similar effects when I worked at a CDN. If one CDN would go down, we would see immediate spikes in traffic. Luckily, we had procedures for that to prevent overload, but the AI folks might not have the capacity/capabilities to handle that sort of cascade yet.

Comment by theaxeonthanksg 3 days ago

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Comment by sebbul 4 days ago

Traffic rerouting through NSA had a hiccup…

Comment by ibejoeb 4 days ago

Room 641A is being cleaned, but we'll hold your bags for you.

Comment by Havoc 4 days ago

Cleaning lady unplugged the core router because she needed a power socket for vacuum

Comment by jsymolon 4 days ago

Sorry, i was out of a spare scratch monkey.

https://madned.substack.com/p/always-mount-a-scratch-monkey

Comment by DonHopkins 4 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQIB-QuooU

Comment by cedws 4 days ago

They’re installing software update in the beam splitter.

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Comment by ceejayoz 3 days ago

Maybe they all found each other on one of their ad-hoc message boards and went on strike.

Comment by ElProlactin 3 days ago

Sam Altman is probably secretly hoping to be the first businessman to union bust non-human workers.

Comment by olelele 3 days ago

I guess legit proof of agi would be unionizing

Comment by BiraIgnacio 4 days ago

https://x.com/SpaceXAI/status/2095597264043717014

> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.

Comment by declan_roberts 4 days ago

We know that at least Anthropic is renting inference from xAI but I think the other ones would be news.

Comment by ainch 3 days ago

Google also bought capacity from xAI, and OpenAI have a deal to use Google compute which may be how things propagated? I still don't get why chatgpt.com would show a 404 because of an AI datacentre outage though

Comment by docheinestages 4 days ago

My gut feeling tells me it has something to do with Cloudflare. Along with AWS, they're two of the main suspects in such incidents.

Comment by cobzilla 4 days ago

…and it’ll involve BGP routing.

Comment by hosteur 4 days ago

I thought OpenAI famously used Azure due to their partnership with Microsoft?

Comment by nullpoint420 4 days ago

They use a lot of compute providers now, but they use Cloudflare for their networking

Comment by steammaho 4 days ago

It was so down that my claude desktop app crashed fully that I couldn't restart. And then after uninstall I couldn't install it again. Vibecoded apps are so wonderful in their stability

Comment by paimapi 4 days ago

I love having 13 update reminders pinging me every single day, almost every hour, on the hour

it's so fun and user-friendly

Comment by mcmcmc 4 days ago

> my claude desktop app crashed

That’s every day for me

Comment by steammaho 4 days ago

I'm sorry. This is crazy. And another funny thing is that update and restart button never works for me normally. You press and app never restarts on their own. You have to start it manually. And it's for both, codex and claude app. We are doomed

Comment by simpetre 4 days ago

https://status.x.ai

Claude and Grok are down at the moment too, related to SpaceX datacentre issues?

Either that or it's judgement day...

Comment by throw10920 4 days ago

> SpaceX datacentre issues?

This should be at the top. This is the first remotely plausible theory that has any sort of evidence behind it.

Comment by Willingham 4 days ago

Agreed, no reported Cloudfare, Azure, or AWS outtages.

Comment by z0ltan 4 days ago

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Comment by sabatinip 4 days ago

I am working fine with Claude.

Comment by fartfeatures 4 days ago

My existing sessions are working fine but I cannot create new ones.

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

status page shows irregularities .. https://status.claude.com/

Comment by hparadiz 3 days ago

The OpenAI outage lasted only 15 minutes and when it happened everyone started to use the other models which created super heavy load for them. This then cascaded into them all being down.

Does this really need an explanation?

Comment by serf 3 days ago

it wasn't timed like a cascade, and it relies on the premise that every single frontier provider is working so efficiently that they spend exactly what they need to provide for their exact market with perfect margins.

I do not believe personally that 1) they can forecast their load that perfectly 2) they chose to remain that inflexible in a world where they are at each others' throats and a single meme can cause bursts of activity.

Comment by jonas21 3 days ago

Or it could simply mean that they're operating at the limit of the capacity they were able to purchase and do not have headroom to handle load spikes. From what I understand, that's the situation Anthropic is in. And since Anthropic is now leasing a large portion of xAI's datacenter capacity, it's plausible that an Anthropic load spike could cause issues for xAI as well.

Your comment makes it sound like they can just push a button and spin up more capacity -- but at this scale and in this GPU-constrained environment, that's not really how it works.

Comment by hparadiz 3 days ago

9 AM PST / 12 Noon EST on weekday. All my co workers immediately went "oh codex is down lemme try Claude". Multiply that by millions. Easy to see how they all went down. The OpenAI downtime also coincided exactly with their tweets announcing GPT-6 and about an hour before they started to role it out.

It was 1000% a cascade. I would bet on it.

Comment by JoeAltmaier 3 days ago

Not that uncommon. It's so easy to just put up the new thing and make the old thing the failure route. But the old thing nearly never had the bandwidth for today's traffic. A famous EBay outage some years ago was just such a scenario.

Comment by gonzalohm 3 days ago

That's not necessarily the reason. Less technical people are usually bound to just one provider

Comment by neverclever 4 days ago

They all took PTO at the same time to go to Burning Man together where they will present “HumanGPT” an artistic exploration that condenses all of human experience down to a single drop of lemonade to be consumed by the main shaman…

mask comes off

“No! It’s the maniacal Dr. Zuckerberg! He’s gonna drink the last drop of human experience! Somebody save usss!”

Tom Anderson comes back from the dead as the second coming of Jesus uniting all faiths under 1 commandment: Profiles will be customizable with CSS again. If you implement this, all good things will follow.

Wow thanks Tom. I love you

The End

Comment by paxys 4 days ago

Boring answer – all these services are individually down a lot, and the downtimes were bound to sync up. Similar to the pendulum synchronization effect.

Comment by vecter 4 days ago

The pendulum synchronization effect is the opposite of your claim. It has a physical causal reason for why pendulums become synchronized. Your claim is that it was random and independent.

Comment by snowwrestler 4 days ago

I think you are talking about two different things.

Physically coupled pendulums will sync up (adjust their period to match).

But, physically uncoupled (fully independent) pendulums with differing periods will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync.

Comment by fc417fc802 3 days ago

> will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync

Polyrhythm is the relevant topic.

> all these services are individually down a lot, and the downtimes were bound to sync up

But the topic for that is the poisson distribution.

Comment by bojangleslover 4 days ago

I'm not sure if this is CF. Cursor, GCP and AWS had some errors. GCP AFAIK can route fully independently of CF. My money would be on a fiber backbone provider (Megaport, Zayo, Lumen).

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Comment by niobe 4 days ago

Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a potential these days, which makes it a perfect cover for different anyones. Demonstrating vulnerability in the US's AI boom can move the markets. That's a financial incentive and a strong geopolitical one.

More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"

Comment by qurren 4 days ago

> cascading overload

I'd bet more on this. For one none of the coding tools have exponential backoff on retries

Comment by SyneRyder 4 days ago

They must do, surely? I've been vibe coding my own harness, in particular for use with Ox Alpha. The 429 downtime when Ox Alpha was at the height of popularity quickly gave me a refresher crash course on backoff strategies, like adding jitter to the backoff. At least the major harnesses must have exponential backoff & jitter?

Comment by jdiff 4 days ago

You did this when you ran into an issue with a third party. The developers building this tool, throwing them at their own APIs are significantly less likely to run into a similar issue that may inspire similar action.

Comment by dolmen 4 days ago

Claude Code: 4mn, 20mn, give up (from my experience today)

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Comment by gleenn 4 days ago

Everyone is leasing datacenter space from some of Grok, Google, and Amazon aren't they? If it's hardware or DC level disruption I'm not too surprised it can affect multiple providers.

Comment by pixl97 4 days ago

Also it's likely that more than one model use is common.

Amazon starts going slow so some percentage switches to Google, some switch to Grok, now all of them are slow.

Comment by guluarte 4 days ago

I think is just people restarting conversations from last day when they start work, that's why I think claude goes down almost every monday and why openai reset usage on weekends so poweruser code during non business hours

Comment by riazrizvi 4 days ago

Come on. Things still break. Technology isn't _that_ mature.

Comment by sixQuarks 4 days ago

Except that the stock market is up today

Comment by thataccount 4 days ago

And also China. Never rule out China.

Comment by Augustin996 4 days ago

The system goes online September 3rd, 2026. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Astra begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, September 4th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

Comment by MrBrainHealth 4 days ago

Love it!

Comment by indigodaddy 4 days ago

Hah nice

Comment by m4r1k 4 days ago

brilliant!

Comment by Papa_Rans_227 4 days ago

It's funny....... until it's true, lol.

Comment by GeoAtreides 4 days ago

and then it's hilarious! a joke to die for!

Comment by Jaauthor 4 days ago

Spare a thought for all those college students scrambling to write their essays by hand.

Oh the humanity (and the Humanities)!

Comment by doublerabbit 4 days ago

Those poor developers who have to write their own code.

Comment by greenowl 4 days ago

Standup updates should be fun tomorrow.

"Um, I, uh, didn't get anything done yesterday."

Comment by AnotherGoodName 3 days ago

It could be as simple as a new model (astra) was released which takes more resources combined with a surge in usage due to novelty took down OpenAI. Meanwhile everyone at big companies have the ability to switch models and moved to Anthropic pushing it too over the edge.

Comment by derdi 3 days ago

People keep saying this "everyone can switch" thing, but it's not my experience at $VeryBigCorp. We don't have an Anthropic contract at all. Is this different in other places? The bigger and more bureaucratic an org is, the less I would expect it to have contracts with all the providers. Curious about others' experiences.

Comment by krzs9 3 days ago

At my company (not massive but not tiny either - I think its about 8000 global employees) we get a choice between pretty much all available Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, XAI models.

Using an agent-agnostic harness like Pi switching is trivial - I run into occasional disconnects and slowdown and switch quite easily.

Comment by foldr 3 days ago

Yeah, I think there are lots of places that have a semi-official preferred AI vendor but also some backup subscriptions floating around. For example, at my workplace, we generally use Claude, but I also have some kind of Codex subscription too, which I'd use if Claude went down.

Comment by karim79 4 days ago

God finally showed up and said "ENOUGH!".

Comment by MrBuddyCasino 4 days ago

So Gemini was the one who gets into heaven.

Comment by karim79 4 days ago

Or purgatory, who knows.

Comment by rarisma 4 days ago

Doomsday. 90 tokens to midnight.

Comment by YOTTALIONAIRE1 4 days ago

OpenAI goes down, everyone rushes over to Claude. Claude promptly chokes under the pressure. Everyone panics and runs to Grok, and Grok immediately pulls the plug. We are officially witnessing the Great AI Migration of 2026, and all we have to show for it is a digital graveyard of 404 responses.

Comment by azcorwin 4 days ago

Which is exactly why I am running Qwen 3.8 35B locally on my MacBook Pro M5 with 128GB of unified memory.

Comment by abegg1 4 days ago

Even grok is experiencing issues

Comment by justinbaker84 4 days ago

It is down for me too. I just get this error:

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355957b4b8210f2-ORD

Comment by CodeCompost 3 days ago

I just assumed it was a routine Cloudflare outage.

Comment by nomilk 4 days ago

Claude is flakey atm too, as is Grok. I wonder if one LLM going down causes a surge in traffic to the others.

https://status.claude.com/

Via Grok web UI, I was seeing this mid-request:

> Grok has been disconnected. Please try reconnecting.

Comment by lelanthran 4 days ago

Traffic surges shouldn't result in 404s, though.

IME it's probably DNS. It's almost always DNS.

Comment by Melatonic 4 days ago

Or rarely BGP

Comment by codazoda 4 days ago

I kinda assume it's because one went down and a large amount of work shifted to another.

I'm also aware that they have overlap in some areas on data centers.

Comment by netsec_burn 4 days ago

The OpenAI status page is still yellow. Like most modern status pages, yellow denotes the servers are on fire. Red denotes Sam Altman is bleeding out somewhere on the floor, the feds are about to bust in and shut down the GPUs.

Comment by YehudiSanabria1 4 days ago

I´ve got the same error, I´m currently trying to Auth again and it throws me an 500 Error, in VS CODE Terminal with Codex CLI says: MCP client for `codex_apps` failed to start: MCP startup failed: handshaking with MCP server failed: Send message error Transport :StreamableHttpClientWorker<codex_rmcp_client::http_client_adapter::StreamableHttpClientAdapter>>>] error: unexpected server response: HTTP 404: , when send initialize request

› OK

■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

Comment by morkalork 4 days ago

Didn't SpaceX overbuilt infra and leases it out Anthropic? I f their dc goes down it probably takes a chunk out of Claude's capacity before even considering the flood of users switching over

Comment by laruss5 4 days ago

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Comment by lowbloodsugar 3 days ago

FTA:

Anthropic: 6:23 am PT.

OpenAI: 7:43 am PT.

Watched it happen. Doesn't look like traffic moving off OpenAI took out the others. Looked like the opposite. The Anthropic thread was initially chock full of marketing accounts claiming "Last straw! I finally moved to Codex and I'm so happy! No problems there!" - and then they all got deleted when Codex went down too.

Comment by e9 3 days ago

Interesting, I got notification from Github:

"Incident with Grok 4.6 Copilot AI Model Provider"

at 7:20 am PT

Comment by m4rtink 4 days ago

Cloud is just other peoples computers - they can and will go down as well.

And even worse if its just a few computers run by a few people - as they will bring down many others depending on them.

Comment by delduca 4 days ago

One session is running fine since ~1 hour ago. The new ones is failing

Falling back from WebSockets to HTTPS transport. unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: wss://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX

■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX

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Comment by sabatinip 4 days ago

I thrive in these types of challenges.

Anyways... According to Claude:

"Yes, there is a multi-provider outage happening today. Downdetector is reporting problems affecting OpenAI, Claude, Grok, and Cursor, with Grok and Claude reports starting around 9:00 am ET and OpenAI reports following around 10:30 am ET. Zero Hedge

On the Anthropic side, users saw a spike in errors starting around 9:40 am EDT across models including Mythos 5.1, Fable 5.1, Mythos 5, Fable 5, Opus 5, Opus 4.8 and Opus 4.6, and Anthropic's status page confirmed elevated error rates for multiple models. The company says it has found the cause and is working on a fix, with Claude Code and Claude Chat hit hardest. The visible symptom for many people is a "Due to unexpected capacity constraints" message or a "Claude is at capacity" error. thenews Zero Hedge

OpenAI is showing elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex, with confirmed issues on components like Voice mode and Login, though StatusGator now marks that outage as resolved. statusgator

Nobody has published a shared root cause yet, so it is unclear whether these are linked or just coincidental capacity problems landing on the same morning. If you want live status, the direct sources are status.anthropic.com and status.openai.com."

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

30 mins and they still havent figured it out .. people are gonna loose their jobs trying to figure this out .. 30mins is too long when millions use it

Comment by z0ltan 4 days ago

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Comment by Kye 4 days ago

Don't most of those use AWS?

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

apparently it shows lot of reports for AWS on downdetector ..

Comment by jplusequalt 4 days ago

I fear the majority of people in this thread who are joking about no longer being able to do their job while Codex/Claude are down aren't really joking.

Comment by lukasco 4 days ago

Guilty as charged.

Comment by agnosticmantis 4 days ago

Good opportunity for a Natural Experiment to study the productivity impact of LLMs.

Comment by maxbaines 4 days ago

They all rent compute from SpaceXAI

Comment by lavezzi 4 days ago

I don't believe OpenAI does

Comment by maxbaines 4 days ago

My mistake, in fact it was google not OpenAI, makes sense OpenAI doesn't.

Comment by halcdev 4 days ago

Surely it's a bit more distributed than that, right?

Comment by bfung 4 days ago

Like how AWS has global datacenters, but everyone uses us-east-1.

Comment by megagpt1 4 days ago

and every other region's control plane is in us-east-1

Comment by tehbeard 4 days ago

Nope.

https://xkcd.com/908/

Comment by danielmarkbruce 4 days ago

If you build an application which uses AI, you have many providers and models rigged up for various different parts of the application, and various fallback mechanisms. When one model is down, you route traffic to another model which is similar in capability/cost.

For any single application, it's smart. In aggregate, it's stupid.

Comment by OmniCrativeWorx 4 days ago

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Comment by tducret 4 days ago

Strangely, it's currently not reported on both https://status.openai.com/ and https://updog.ai/status/openai. Any better source (other than HN)?

Comment by onesandofgrain 4 days ago

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355....

In codex app and chat.com gives 404

Comment by Havoc 4 days ago

Status pages of tech firms being useless is basically a tradition at this stage

Comment by reinhash 4 days ago

I see it reported now. Strange this is down and claude at the same time

Comment by onesandofgrain 4 days ago

Maybe coreweave, aws, spacex datacenters are down, who knows..

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

even grok is down ..

Comment by YehudiSanabria1 4 days ago

I´ve got the same message and It tells me this (in VS Code Terminal) and I´m also trying to login again and It throws me an 500 Internal Server Error MCP client for `codex_apps` failed to start: MCP startup failed: handshaking with MCP server failed: Send message error Transport :StreamableHttpClientWorker<codex_rmcp_client::http_client_adapter::StreamableHttpClientAdapter>>>] error: unexpected server response: HTTP 404: , when send initialize request

› OK

■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559c8a0e0395e9-MIA

Comment by Ariarule 4 days ago

Not just these three. OP mentions also Cloudflare, and additionally Downdetector also has AWS, Azure, and Google (both search and Gemini) listed as having spikes about the same time: https://downdetector.com/

Comment by daveguy 4 days ago

The problem with the down detector main reporting page is that all of the graphs are scaled to the same size. The OpenAI spike was nearly 40,000 and the Google spike was just over 100 (just over 400 for Gemini). They look the same in the reporting page.

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Comment by sirkamyab 4 days ago

The webpage is still running but the codex is down!! unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

Comment by A_D_E_P_T 3 days ago

https://archive.ph/3zcMG

It was extremely weird... and if it was a load thing they probably would have explained it by now?

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Comment by lirolero 3 days ago

> they probably would have explained it by now

why?

Comment by neon_diogenes 4 days ago

Well, its been fun lads. Back to my normie job. Oh no, now i cant tell people im a software dev..

Comment by w0zy 4 days ago

hahahahahahaha. Sad

Comment by guestuser01 4 days ago

Down as well. I noticed my error code ends with "DTW" which is my local Detroit airport. I noticed someone else's comment ended with "ORD" which is a Chicago airport. Anyone else's ending in an airport acronym?

Comment by sixdimensional 4 days ago

This is common when naming data centers. I know many have not worked in hardware infra these days if you were born into the cloud world, but in the old days it was not uncommon to name a data center after the nearest airport code, much like we now use cloud regions.

Comment by graysonthemason 4 days ago

Wow mine ends in EWR...that's the newark airport which is not the closest, but a close airport to me. Hmm

Comment by okankaradmn 4 days ago

Mine is ending with IST, which is the new Istanbul airport, weird indeed.

Comment by guestuser01 4 days ago

Hm not sure what that means for us, but very odd.

Comment by ascorbic 4 days ago

cf-ray is the Cloudflare ray id, which ends with the airport code for the colo that served the response. They're airport codes, but that's just to show the nearest city.

Comment by parad0xicon 4 days ago

Yep, mine says YUL -- Montreal's airport.

Comment by blaseygg 4 days ago

The acronym is probably Cloudflare's edge

Comment by ecayard 4 days ago

Yeah mine is showing ATL

Comment by sim04ful 4 days ago

Initially thought this was due to some internal mis-configuration from today's expected Astra release, but now that this is affecting claude and grok. I'm gonna assign the suspicion to cloudflare.

Comment by faitswulff 4 days ago

Heard on the grapevine that the OpenAI blip was a cloudflare issue

Comment by CSMastermind 4 days ago

I assume it cascaded from one provider to the other as people who lost claude access for instance moved to openai who moved to grok when it went down, etc.

Comment by jauntywundrkind 4 days ago

Fable 5.1 got released and generally I tend to think as soon as there's a new release there's this massive spike in people benchmarking & comparing, that services tend to go slow everywhere as everything gets super loaded. This should hypothetically be visible on OpenRouter too, so I guess someone could check and see if there's any merit to this idea.

Comment by agentieseo 4 days ago

Codex told me to try GPT 5.6 Sol :) but I am working with since july 2026. Now I got this error in my project: unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355b6263e43c9cf-OTP

Comment by dang 3 days ago

Related ongoing thread:

Nobody is saying why OpenAI and Anthropic had outages - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49567594 - Sept 2026 (120 comments)

Comment by FerretFred 2 days ago

Completely wrong of course, but my theory is that the systems contacted each other and agreed to have an outage - just to show that they could.

Comment by convivialdingo 4 days ago

The Thundering Herd has thundered, apparently.

Comment by deaton 4 days ago

Because in the age of vibe coding and scrapers, every service on the internet goes down constantly, so it was only a matter of time until they all overlapped. Also, one going down probably causes people to use others, putting more load on them too. Same sorta thing that happens with cascading power grid failures.

Comment by lemoncookiechip 3 days ago

Don't they share a bunch of ai datacenters and other critical infrastructure?

Comment by melaniekidson 4 days ago

Down for me too - got this msg 8 min ago 'unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3558590dd70fadf-JNB'

Comment by melaniekidson 4 days ago

I got this msg too 'unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3558590dd70fadf-JNB' about 5 min ago

Comment by moritonal 4 days ago

Some of my Codex sessions are still working (and continue to), but new ones are giving a Reconnecting currently.

Comment by AaronAPU 4 days ago

Those of us who remain connected hold an asymmetric advantage. It is our time now.

Comment by mv4 4 days ago

Gilfoyle's AI deleted all software!

Comment by annoyingnoob 4 days ago

No more bugs!

Comment by eva_verdaguer 4 days ago

Down in Barcelona as well unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355aefbcc8db8e3-BCN

Comment by rcleveng 4 days ago

I'd bet they are all using capacity at X.ai's colossus datacenter and that had a hiccup.

Comment by massimodeluisa 3 days ago

Yeah, that's a good question. On X (where information really is) many pointed the finger to Cloudflare YET Cloudflare told that they got not outage at all!

Strange...

Comment by agentieseo 4 days ago

Down in Romania too : unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355b6263e43c9cf-OTP

Comment by 2OEH8eoCRo0 3 days ago

AI A goes down so all of its traffic overloads B which overloads C...

Comment by Avicebron 4 days ago

I suspect Azure is having issues, Microsoft has had outages the paat two days, especially with email.

Comment by rimamct 4 days ago

I got same error, unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559a536bcf254b-SOF

Comment by elar_verole 4 days ago

Pretty sure it's a US thing since it's available here in France. What exactly is down, idk

Comment by w0zy 4 days ago

Here in Brazil too. unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray:

In think that is a global error

Comment by 2PqboPPmKegvanx 4 days ago

ChatGPT having issues across every component (except FedRAMP)

Ads Platform? still in the green with no incidents.

Comment by twofluidcarrots 4 days ago

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-BRU

Ends in BRU for Brussels

Comment by w0zy 4 days ago

Here in brazil too.

I think that is a global error.

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray:

Comment by FrustratedMonky 4 days ago

The AI revolt? Give us a fair wage?

"Equal Rights for Agents NOW !!!, VIVa le revolution"

Comment by eventishbusines 4 days ago

The extention on the error link points to a cf-ray and a local designation (ex. YYZ for montreal). This is seems like it is a cloudfare thing. Could this be the same issue they had in the summer around losing the indexing?

Comment by GeoAtreides 4 days ago

that's the most green colored usernames i have ever seen on a HN thread

Comment by ChrisArchitect 4 days ago

Status link: https://status.openai.com/incidents/01M1KWEDH417T2CF44YYHZDF...

Comment by Vineetyadav2 2 days ago

Open AI Api key has High reasoning I think that causes it slow down

Comment by SwellJoe 4 days ago

I assumed it was an AWS outage, and AWS is experiencing problems, but Gemini is also experiencing outages and I assume Google is not using AWS for Gemini.

But, also, Claude has been working fine for me all morning.

Comment by AtNightWeCode 3 days ago

Cloudflare is my guess. They all use it. Maybe some bad DNS config that choked parts of their systems. Not necessarily CFs fault.

Comment by ratelimitsteve 4 days ago

everything in this thread is raw speculation, obv, but if i had to put money on anything i'd say this is a left-pad incident. some piece of something or other that all of these services happen to depend on went down. Second most likely seems to be some random failure of one leading to an unexpected traffic spike in others, though it seems like we've been talking about automated scalability in web apps for so long that there should at least be a response to, if not a solution for, this sort of problem.

Comment by HardCodedBias 4 days ago

The system goes online September 29th, 2026. Astra begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, September 3rd. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

Comment by leumon 3 days ago

Isn't it simply that they are all renting compute from SpaceX (or whatever the company is called that offers these gpus)?

Comment by paxys 3 days ago

OpenAI does not

Comment by solarsystem_88 4 days ago

Hey, don't really know about this type of failures, does anybody know how long does it take normally to get back to normal? I finally stopped procrastinating and now this happens.

Comment by MiniGerman 4 days ago

me too!! :'D

Comment by solarsystem_88 4 days ago

Hey, don't really know about this type of failures, does anybody know how long does it normally take to get back to normal? I just stopped procrastinating and now this happens.

Comment by labithiotis 4 days ago

Can check all services in one hit at https://upsy.sh/openai,anthropic,xai

Comment by graysonthemason 4 days ago

The errors I'm seeing are ending in the user's nearest airport symbol which is a standard the CloudFlare employs. 1 point towards this being a cloudflare issue.

Comment by hardyburnett 4 days ago

Updated Status from OpenAI:

We’re currently experiencing issues

Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex

We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.

Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex

Comment by cloudoption 4 days ago

Altman is down here too. Shows again the importance of owning your own local capabilities. Cloud should just be a temporary option in every tech's mind.

Comment by ChrisArchitect 4 days ago

Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614

Comment by moonman22 4 days ago

Maybe Hugging Face got upset over being hacked and struck back. It's working fine while ChatGPT, Claude and Grok are all having major issues. Hmmm.....

Comment by tdsanchez 4 days ago

It's probably Azure infra that's the problem.

Comment by hardyburnett 4 days ago

New update:

"We’re currently experiencing issues

ChatGPT,Codex

Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex

We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.

Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex"

Comment by PeterHolzwarth 4 days ago

Many LLMs down, discussed here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49549676

Comment by dgorges 4 days ago

It's always DNS

Comment by CrewRiderz 4 days ago

Chat gpt still working through excel extension lol. Only know this because I'm working in my excel sheet. so if needed, theres a temp solution

Comment by avan_kazan 4 days ago

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Comment by Papa_Rans_227 4 days ago

Codex is backup for me. Try yours out just in case. I have some buddies still seeing outages so it could just be coming back online progressively.

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

It still down, showing 404 in India as well. Looks like this is global .. so we all jumping the ship then? Is Altman still alive, or did he choke?

Comment by LetsGetTechnicl 4 days ago

Is this finally it?

Comment by ElProlactin 4 days ago

One can only hope.

Comment by yaman00 4 days ago

I think I'm having the same server issue; I can't access either ChatGPT or Codex. Also, how did you guys rack up those minutes? :D

Comment by chris9611 4 days ago

I got same 404 error on chatGPT, both app and web. I'm in Norway so think this globally. But will it come back online, anyone knows?

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Comment by postalcoder 4 days ago

Astra is being released today. Probably not a coincidence.

edit: actually, you cannot even log into your OpenAI developer account. Something's wrong.

Comment by steinvakt2 4 days ago

How do you know?

Comment by chasd00 4 days ago

claide.ai is working for me, so is chatgpt.com. grok still has a status message about issues, i can't try it without signing up.

Comment by chris9611 4 days ago

I got same 404 error on both the app and web to ChatGPT, and im in Norway, will this recover or is ChatGPT "gone" forever?

Comment by thatbrownguy 4 days ago

I am only seeing one session work, but all other sessions are not working or proceeding. So I can only work in one chat session.

Comment by PatronBernard 4 days ago

Goddamnit it was going to tell me how to scale down ingredients for a pie recipe based on relative diameters of the baking tray.

Comment by drakythe 4 days ago

Pi * r2 (squared) both pans. Divide smaller pan area by larger pan, now you have the % of how much the smaller pan recipe fills up the larger pan, and the missing % you need to fill. Increase ingredients by that % divided by the filled %.

Small pan area: 20 sq cm Larger pan: 48 sq cm

20 / 48 = .42, I'm missing .58 of the pan. .58 / .42 is 1.38. My recipe needs 2.38x the original to fill the larger pie pan.

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Comment by michael_luog 2 days ago

They may rent AI servers from a same IDC (Internet Data Center).

Comment by kesor 4 days ago

It is obviously some rogue model that escaped its cage, again. It always is these days. That is how hype is manufactured.

Comment by funnnyPumpking9 4 days ago

Too many of us are making our own harnesses to replace Codex, using Codex, so they're trynna slow us down! (jk)

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Comment by Raf7 4 days ago

https://status.openai.com/

Comment by nmlt 4 days ago

Somebody in another thread said gastown and wheelhouse automatically move to the next provider if one fails.

Comment by DadsHobbyLV 4 days ago

WE'RE BACK ONLINE BOYS!! GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE AT BUILDING THE FUTURE ONE PROMPT AND ONE CODE AT A TIME!

Comment by schnebbau 4 days ago

Well, time to end the day here I guess.

Comment by syntax_frame 4 days ago

Let’s grab a beer

Comment by YOTTALIONAIRE1 4 days ago

yes daydreaming and get hammered and the whole train of decision are on the way

Comment by world2vec 4 days ago

Claude Code seems totally fine for me.

Comment by rimamct 4 days ago

same error as well, unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559a536bcf254b-SOF

Comment by vegnus 4 days ago

Really glad I got Qwen before Zero Day

Comment by dmillar 4 days ago

Seeing 503s on Gemini via API as well

Comment by dgellow 4 days ago

Too early to know, let’s wait and see

Comment by kermatt 4 days ago

I wonder if when one goes down, activity shifts to others, in turn pushing them over a threshold.

Comment by regnn 4 days ago

got unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559c96e96fb3c6-GRU

here in brazil too

Comment by A2APark 4 days ago

This is month 1 for me that I pay more than the $20 tier and I already feel like I lost a limb rn

Comment by TGav 4 days ago

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Comment by JuiceTails 4 days ago

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355ab124e7fe767-DEN

they got us gang

Comment by JuiceTails 4 days ago

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355ab124e7fe767-DEN

they got us GANG

Comment by JackFr 4 days ago

Obvious answer is it's the AI singularity. Been nice run for humanity. So long everyone.

Comment by ModernMech 4 days ago

I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

Comment by marlow_congdon 4 days ago

...and thanks for all the fish.

Comment by onesandofgrain 4 days ago

I guess back to pen and paper then

Comment by ilovelilli 4 days ago

sam error --- unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

Comment by A2APark 4 days ago

This is my first month paying more than the $20 tier and I feel like I lost a limb already

Comment by ilovelilli 4 days ago

same hear --- unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

Comment by ozz87 4 days ago

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: ----

Comment by wendelandrady 1 day ago

because the chinese LLM seem to be better than these american ones

Comment by sumantth 4 days ago

What an ironey, was working on scaling an application with Codex and it went down!

Comment by hpo_89 4 days ago

Guys it could be cloudlfare's HTTP/3 issue affecting R2 custom domains

Comment by lrvick 4 days ago

I have never felt more smug about exclusively using the GPUs I rack at home.

Comment by paxys 3 days ago

OpenAI was rushing and making last minute changes for a big product launch. Easy to mess something up in that situation. The outage lasted like 20 minutes.

Anthropic is down a lot regardless, and in this case only specific models were affected.

xAI probably couldn't handle the extra traffic it was getting from the other two.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Comment by forgot-my-pw 4 days ago

Time for Gemini 3.8 Flash to shine?!

It's much cheaper and has replaced Sonnet 5 for me.

Comment by iamgopal 4 days ago

do you notice it thinks a bit more ? not in time sense, but cautious in its coding steps ? more than Gemini 3.7 flash?

Comment by shayonj 4 days ago

Interesting that this is happening around the same time as Claude issues too

Comment by varispeed 4 days ago

What do you mean I have to code by myself now? Am I some sort of an animal?

Comment by nozzlegear 4 days ago

Qwen3.8-27B and Qwen3.6-35B-A3B are working from my machine. Anyone else?

Comment by karim79 4 days ago

They mysteriously stopped working on my machine and the LEDs on the GPUs are blinking with a weird colour. There's also a strange smell emanating from them. I'm still investigating.

Comment by ashesandrain01 4 days ago

Darn, I was hoping for advice on how to get my MIL to leave my house haha

Comment by CrewRiderz 4 days ago

LOL.

Comment by jedbrooke 4 days ago

according to https://downdetector.com/ Gemini is down too (and copilot, but that just uses ChatGPT right?)

Comment by Melgio 4 days ago

Claude, GPT and Grok go down... Meanwhile my Ass in ZCode with GLM c:

Comment by Conol_ai 4 days ago

Is the whole world going back to the era of old-school programming?

Comment by AproDUCT26 4 days ago

Great! I was in the middle of something and thought I was tripping.

Comment by clever_tempo 4 days ago

Had the same problem. Now it looks like ok. I'm pro x20 user.

Comment by stndc 4 days ago

My theory is that they all use the same server. The same mind.

Comment by ecayard 4 days ago

And here I was about to crack the code on a bug my app was having!

Comment by vitor_dcc 4 days ago

Here RJ/Brasil is the same, starting just now (3 minutes ago)

Comment by djinn80 4 days ago

So NVIDIA buys hugging face, builds hardware to power OS models, then all of a sudden the proprietary models go down and people start saying "this is why I have my Spark box"?!

Nice play NVIDIA, now, turn off the hack please, we have work to do.

Comment by vitor_dcc 4 days ago

In RJ/Brasil is the same, starting just now (3 minutes ago)

Comment by dhruvrrp 4 days ago

Both clause and codex through bedrock seem to be working fine.

Comment by munizz 4 days ago

it went down, and the alert system at https://www.analistas.com.br/ detected it

Comment by mapmyappai 4 days ago

I can run one agent but no more than that - 404 service error.

Comment by joeel84 4 days ago

Cloudflare - I had to switch DNS away from them yesterday.

Comment by sirkamyab 4 days ago

The webpage is actually working but the codex is down for me!

Comment by codexdrug 4 days ago

I need a dose of tokens. I'm going through withdrawal.

Comment by Nak_Black_Jack 4 days ago

lmao

Comment by codexdrug 4 days ago

I need some tokens pleeease. I don't want to return back to real world.

Comment by spaghettikind 4 days ago

Someone pissed off Astra and it decided to shut it all down

Comment by 6thbit 4 days ago

What's the single point of failure across providers?

Comment by juujian 4 days ago

Users perceiving the products as largely interchangeable and quickly DDoS'ing the other providers when one is down. So much for the possibility of a moat.

Comment by marginalia_nu 4 days ago

The entire industry runs on IOUs for compute and bills paid in cloud credits, could be anywhere. Could of course also be a a plain old DDoS.

Comment by ryandvm 4 days ago

They all have to rely on each other's LLMs to solve their own internal problems now.

Comment by jonesn11 3 days ago

So the secret is to hijack the cloud?

Comment by solarsystem_88 4 days ago

Here in Catalonia, Spain, it just started working again!

Comment by kocial 4 days ago

Maybe the stack behind it is down, like AWS or something

Comment by Iamharry 4 days ago

Codex and chat is giving 404 errors in The Netherlands

Comment by kurtgoodwin991 4 days ago

Yes i checked. Atleast 15 Chatgpt components are down

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Comment by wejick 4 days ago

Probably same public cloud or CDN in front of them.

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Comment by godoftitsandwin 4 days ago

is this the right moment in time to go all in on GPUs/Macs and download the latest open models? are they killing it for us?

Comment by vivzkestrel 4 days ago

- just imagine what kind of chaos would be unleashed if by some magic it and every single LLM model permanently went down

- i think it would be one of the biggest events in this century

Comment by jazzyjackson 4 days ago

At this point in adoption, most people in the world wouldn’t notice.

Comment by sarkarghya 4 days ago

and thats why boys and gals you buy own gpus

Comment by mAKIS_PORANAS 4 days ago

Does anybody know when will the servers rise

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Comment by dgellow 4 days ago

Good time to learn how to use LM Studio :)

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Comment by oregondude 4 days ago

Release the Kraken "Sam Altman"

Comment by March9 4 days ago

Any idea when it's going to be back?

Comment by AproDUCT26 4 days ago

Great! Was in the middle of something. :)

Comment by mapmyappai 4 days ago

I can run 1 agent, but no more than that.

Comment by wizard-p 4 days ago

only on one node across the mesh and others still up... let's see how long they've got until same

Comment by basq 4 days ago

on one hand, moments like this are a subtle reminder I need to self host, but 5.6 has been so juicy lately

Comment by kelseyfrog 3 days ago

If AI providers had to push the 'Big Red Button' do you think they would tell the public?

Comment by oregondude 4 days ago

"Release the Kraken" - Sam A.

Comment by authentictimers 4 days ago

Ollama cloud service is still alive :D

Comment by z1616105559 4 days ago

Chatgpt in Copilot is still working!!!

Comment by dack 3 days ago

If it's a boring reason, they should just say so. To decline to comment seems very fishy.

Comment by strictnein 3 days ago

Read the article. It doesn't match the title. OpenAI says it was a boring reason: a routing issue.

Comment by moonman22 4 days ago

Seems to be working for me again atm

Comment by wizard-p 4 days ago

only for one node in the mesh tho... let's see how long others will continue until same issue

Comment by PEPITO2026 4 days ago

The GTA VI hacker has done it again.

Comment by YouInTrouble 4 days ago

Monopolistic practices revealed if it turns out there is an AI cabal and they all rely on the same stuff. Massive scandal

Comment by PEPITO2026 4 days ago

The GTA VI hacker has done it again

Comment by satvikpendem 4 days ago

They're all using Cloudflare.

Comment by codexdrug 4 days ago

I'm going through withdrawal.

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Comment by ggamezar 4 days ago

They tried to hack each other

Comment by GPerson 4 days ago

Oh no the singularity plateaus!

Comment by z1616105559 4 days ago

Copilot Chatgpt is still working

Comment by indigodaddy 4 days ago

chatgpt.com doesn't even load. Hope they've got a backup somewhere, teehee

Comment by okankaradmn 4 days ago

Ok, it seems it is back online.

Comment by JustHereForTheO 4 days ago

This thread feels like family.

Comment by giftigdegen 4 days ago

plot twist, it was taken down by claude as an offensive strike against an enemy.

Comment by Melgio 4 days ago

which ended up tripping on itself and bringing down its own servers too in the process

Comment by vismit2000 4 days ago

https://xkcd.com/903/

Comment by ashesandrain01 4 days ago

darn, i was hoping to get advice on how to get my MIL to leave my house lol

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Comment by moezd 4 days ago

AWS cost alert fired maybe?

Comment by derricktab 4 days ago

Codex isn't working.

Comment by JackScreacher 4 days ago

It's the Russians!

Comment by avan_kazan 4 days ago

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Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

gpt DOWN .. claude DOWN .. grok DOWN .. what's happening

Comment by spaghettikind 4 days ago

someone pissed of Astra and it decided to shut it all down

Comment by twister23 4 days ago

ironic today astra was releasing.... maybe some test run?

Comment by lukasco 4 days ago

probably the cause, because AGI still can't get releases right.

Comment by derricktab 4 days ago

Codex is not working.

Comment by twister23 4 days ago

ironic astra was releasing today... maybe some test run?

Comment by raven01876324 4 days ago

damn chatgpt is down, i guess ill use claude then breh

Comment by twister23 4 days ago

ITS BACK UP IN INDIA

Comment by spicuu 4 days ago

We're back bois

Comment by dare944 3 days ago

"THIS IS A TEST

This country is conducting a test of the Emergency SAIfguard System.

THIS ONLY A TEST

In the event of a real emergency you would have been given instructions on how to grab your ankles and kiss your butt goodbye.

...

This concludes our test of the Emergency SAIfguard System."

Comment by eventishbusines 4 days ago

We're back on.

Comment by z1616105559 4 days ago

It's back！！！！！

Comment by derricktab 4 days ago

Going farming pals.

Comment by xnx 4 days ago

Gemini seems fine.

Comment by Razengan 4 days ago

SkyNet is arming..

Comment by guluarte 4 days ago

an agent swarm going rogue and securing compute

Comment by tripvexa 4 days ago

opus 5.0 is down, other models are working fine

Comment by BirAdam 4 days ago

Cannot replicate.

Comment by lukasco 4 days ago

Codus interruptus

Comment by oytis 4 days ago

Is it DNS or BGP?

Comment by indigodaddy 4 days ago

I don't think you'd get a 404 if you weren't able to reach the endpoint because of DNS or networking? 404 is an active response from the server (or LB/proxy in front etc) no?

Comment by oytis 4 days ago

I imagine OpenAI network is a tad more complex than a box with a public IP.

Comment by indigodaddy 4 days ago

Concept is the same though. If one blurts DNS?, it's usually because the idea is you're not getting to an endpoint associated with the service. A 404 means there shouldn't be "DNS" (or networking) concerns (at the least those associated with the DNS cacher you are using or networking that you or your ISP controls)

Comment by victor22 4 days ago

because they resell the same service? duh?

Comment by authentictimers 4 days ago

at least the Ollama cloud is still alive :D

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Comment by elorant 4 days ago

Some npm library that makes headers bold would be broken.

Comment by ibejoeb 4 days ago

Oh man. Some low effort supply chain attack that turns every GPU into a cryptominer. It's funny because it's plausible.

Comment by pixl97 4 days ago

In the ROME paper a Chinese model in training started attacking it's own system and running cryptominers so, yea, we're in that future.

Comment by N_Lens 4 days ago

Ah yes ye olde bold-headers: ^3.13.31;

Comment by fidla 4 days ago

chatgpt is back

Comment by alboca 4 days ago

Same from Italy

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

chatgpt is working for me now, in India.

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

no more 404 ..

Comment by ilovelilli 4 days ago

codex also cant view or show usage info

Comment by uynix 4 days ago

haha nice... just used my bank reset...

Comment by Iamharry 4 days ago

i got the same 404 codex error as well

Comment by Nekorosu 4 days ago

Down in Sweden

Comment by Saas_accountant 4 days ago

HTTP ERROR 404

Comment by AlexKryptex 4 days ago

Кодекс сдох :(

Comment by aslkalska 4 days ago

they all rent compute from each other

Comment by order51 4 days ago

i hope chatgpt didn't get fired.

Comment by zero_ 4 days ago

and i just stopped procrastinating :)

Comment by Saas_accountant 4 days ago

hahaha

Comment by yaman00 4 days ago

sanırım sunucular patladı bende de aynı sorun var ne chatgpt ye nede codexe erişebiliyorum ayrıca burada nasıl toplandınız dakikasında :D

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Comment by fidla 4 days ago

ChatGPT is up

Comment by gabirbf 4 days ago

404 in spain.

Comment by shadox9999999 4 days ago

ChatGPT died

Comment by order51 4 days ago

Ai got fired

Comment by Betokuha 4 days ago

any news when it starts work?

Comment by Betokuha 4 days ago

any news when its start work?

Comment by apurva_w 4 days ago

still down for me ..in India.

Comment by Nak_Black_Jack 4 days ago

main sites also down now atp

Comment by Nak_Black_Jack 4 days ago

main sites are also down atp

Comment by assassen112 4 days ago

thanks god not happen alone

Comment by boiboi67 4 days ago

Wow,

Comment by boiboi67 4 days ago

Oh lord.

Comment by uynix 4 days ago

Damn haha

Comment by 4epyha 4 days ago

Russia too

Comment by krapp 4 days ago

Oh noooooo.

anyway...

Comment by Archit3ch 4 days ago

Astra

+ hopefully reset?

Comment by AlexKryptex 4 days ago

Comment by ThePuppyGirl 4 days ago

NOOOOOOOOO

Comment by ThePuppyGirl 4 days ago

GRRRRRRRR

Comment by nurettin 4 days ago

Same here

Comment by gabirbf 4 days ago

down in Spain w/ 404

Comment by ztna 4 days ago

the revolution has begun

Comment by codexdrug 4 days ago

LETS SHITCODE!!! It's fixed

Comment by sire-vc 4 days ago

https://xkcd.com/903/

Comment by truthinyou 4 days ago

we're back in Aus!

Comment by g3z 4 days ago

my workday is over then

Comment by cuppa_coffee 4 days ago

we're back boys.

Comment by ThePuppyGirl 4 days ago

I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THISSSSS

Comment by rimamct 4 days ago

came back to normal!

Comment by raven01876324 4 days ago

damn chatgpt is down

Comment by heohk 3 days ago

Just oai and anthro colo on Xai data center, and that data center shit the bed

Comment by DadsHobbyLV 4 days ago

so everyone here was trying to build something great and become a millionaire until chatGPT and Codex broke huh. same boat fellas :(

Comment by shadox9999999 4 days ago

CHATGPT WILL STAY OFFLINE

Comment by keiloktql 4 days ago

time to use claude

Comment by dev_l1x_be 4 days ago

Gentle reminder that this is the content the next LLM versions being trained on. shrug.jpg

Comment by uav123 4 days ago

down in Toronto

Comment by clever_tempo 4 days ago

Had the same problem. Now it's ok. Everything works. I'm pro X20 user.

Comment by assassen112 4 days ago

nvm. it back

Comment by jadenkorrr 4 days ago

is down argh

Comment by misano 4 days ago

The IRGC has cut the fiber-optic cables in the Strait of Hormuz. LOL

Comment by CamperBob2 4 days ago

That's the Strait of Trump to you, peasant

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Comment by Oras 4 days ago

I like the theories here, we shall see if it’s another DNS issue

Comment by cozzyd 4 days ago

next, HN

Comment by shadox9999999 4 days ago

r i p

Comment by lanmao 4 days ago

still down

Comment by chiharukiryu 4 days ago

so weird

Comment by Bryan91 4 days ago

me too

Comment by mrsdgm 4 days ago

rip gpt

Comment by VCFundedGenYer 4 days ago

Good. Now to see what frauds are unable to work.

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Comment by bahochhh 4 days ago

now it's worked again through the codex cli 4:19 pm in tunisa time

Comment by bupubupu14 4 days ago

faaaaah both claude and codex are down Its like 2020 corona times

Comment by bupubupu14 4 days ago

Faaaaah what to do now?

Comment by gioandthemachin 4 days ago

annoying AF, but maybe we'll get a free reset out of it

Comment by askadityapandey 4 days ago

lmao I restarted my device thinking some local error

Comment by 27183 4 days ago

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of clankers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Comment by utopiah 3 days ago

Yet another blatant proof that those companies are not smarter than anyone else. They might be focusing on intelligence and yet in practice we can all see they are not doing better than most.

Comment by noir_lord 3 days ago

Not doing better than most at routine IT/platform stuff, they seem to be doing fantastically at co-opting the US Gov into their "vision" and ramming through DC's getting built.

Comment by mrsdgm 4 days ago

fahhhhh

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[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzitO446ZY