Vehicle Motion Cues
Posted by Austin_Conlon 15 hours ago
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Comment by firefoxd 6 hours ago
A few years back we played an escape room game online with the whole team. One of the clues was in one of my colleagues "room". All he had to do was read it. "Come one read it man, we can win this." He froze. We all insisted he reads it. He could not read it. We thought he had an internet connection issue. Somehow we managed to escape the room and kept going.
The next day he told me he was embarrassed because he couldn't understand what we were talking about. He could not see the note we were talking about because he is colorblind.
Comment by seizethecheese 1 hour ago
The strange thing is that I somehow convinced myself that I wasn’t colorblind during my childhood, in spite of obvious evidence, because I often could figure out colors. Then during an eye exam at 19 years old I failed 11/12 vision tests.
Comment by kristjansson 1 hour ago
same for ungulates. hence, tigers
Comment by albedoa 4 hours ago
A similar thing happened to a friend who was over for game night. We were playing the Monopoly Deal card game when he put a brown and a red card next to each other with kind of a confused silence. Look at this:
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/374991_dc4dfa2a6f0d4ebb81...
(Pictured: Three red property cards next to two brown property cards.) They use only color to indicate property group. I was surprised that such a recognizable brand would allow this to get through. About one in twelve men cannot play this game without assistance.
Comment by thi2 4 hours ago
> "Quick, is this red or orange I need to know if it'll blow".
I'm sure it's a really annoying condition but at the time it was pretty funny and he joked around with it a lot
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Comment by sandworm101 2 hours ago
One interesting stat from the miltary: cadets who were competative swimmers generally dont get motion sickness. The combination of 0g floating and constant head rotations along diferent axis (flip turns) normalizes the sensations.
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Comment by anon_acc5415 2 hours ago
Bizzare and fascinating thing, but that's perhaps not as rock-solid as it might appear.
Some (or at least 1) people have reported improved color perception post magic mushrooms.
> Though the subject reported intensification of colors while under the acute effects of psilocybin, his score on plates 1–21 improved only slightly to 15 at 12 h post-administration. However, by 24 h post-mushroom administration, his score reached 18, above the cut-off of 17 required by the Ishihara Test for classification of normal color vision,” the report states. “His score peaked at 19 on day eight post-administration. At approximately four months post-mushroom administration, his score remained elevated at 18,” the researchers write.
From https://www.mdlinx.com/article/can-magic-mushrooms-solve-col...
Now, you might say, "Well, that's hogwash, maybe that guy was lying."
To which I say... I experienced it myself! During the experience, colors were significantly more vivid and saturated. (I actually think I "saw" how women for eg see more subtlety between different shades.) Sure, the breeze felt amazing, and nature and trees were peaceful... but I spent a disproportionate amount of time staring at the street and marveling at the colors.
Want a twist? I'll give you two.
1. I'm not color blind, afaik. I've done a number of (admittedly basic) tests and passed them all.
2. The substance I (alledgly) took was not mushrooms. It wasn't even a plant based - or illicit thing! It was a prescription drug/medicine!
I'll leave you to guess it if you want, semi-spoilers below.
It was a drug used (and famously known) primarily as a wakefulness agent for narcolepsy, and I might have taken the R-enantiomer of it.
Comment by anon_acc5415 1 hour ago
I'd think the concept of "brain tweaks can improve color vision" is a good thing.
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Comment by latexr 7 hours ago
1. Be a developer and you (or a spouse/child/friend) get motion sickness when looking at the phone while travelling.
2. We’ve known the mechanisms of motion sickness (looking at something static while your inner ear indicates you’re moving) from before smartphones were a thing.
3. We already have a ton of information on the phone to know when we’re in a vehicle, how fast we’re moving, direction, so on.
4. Try adding something to the static screen so it moves in tandem with you and thus reduce the cause of motion sickness.
5. Get the people who get sick to try it out.
If anything, I’m surprised it took a decade and a half to come up with it.
Comment by usrusr 5 hours ago
Why it isn't likely to have happened before: trying is only easy for a developer who is not only very familiar with the API for reading those motion sensors but also with the API for system wide overlay. This a strict no for your run of the mill to-do list app. Combine that with the requirement of being affected themselves (or someone close), having the idea, having the time to try and no competing side quests that take up all attention. And the requirement of when the experiment was successful, having the kind of access that actually serves as a conduit for ideas not only on paper to someone in the position to make it a product. That's a lot of stars that need to align. Personally I wouldn't even be surprised if there was an LLM angle: would still need someone in the know to try it, but chances are that knowledge combined with a bit of prompting could be a path to PoC implementation that could clear effort thresholds that would stand in the way of conventional coding.
Comment by latexr 4 hours ago
> Personally I wouldn't even be surprised if there was an LLM angle
I would bet money there wasn’t. The feature was introduced in early 2024, meaning it has to be thought about, developed, and tested before that.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-announces-new-a...
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Comment by Centigonal 13 hours ago
This would have saved me a lot of grief during a recent road trip through some mountains.
https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-motion-setti...
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Comment by fletchowns 12 hours ago
I wish my Pixel 9 had it but I guess it hasn't trickled down yet. I think it's in the latest Android on latest Pixel devices though.
Comment by embedding-shape 6 hours ago
Apple whole idea to UX seems to be "Mostly hidden by default, let people trigger it accidentally to learn about it, or reading about it somewhere else" as even after having my iPhone 12 Mini for so long, I still "discover" new things every now and then that nothing or no one told me about.
Like how are people supposed to "discover" the whole "shake the phone to undo" shortcut unless they accidentally trigger that? I see nothing in the UI that indicates when this is possible either, some apps use that for reporting feedback instead.
Comment by dylan604 2 hours ago
Things that are "hidden" are just discoveries waiting to happen for those that look. For those that need their hands held and guided through the world, those things might stay "hidden". Just as you feel irked that things are hidden, I feel irked by people that don't go looking. Push all the buttons. Turn all the knobs. Click all the things.
Comment by Rohansi 12 hours ago
You don't need to wait. You can get apps that do the same thing on Android.
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I wonder if any other laptops have IMUs that can be used to implement this on Linux/Windows
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Eventually I will try the open source offerings.
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Comment by deivid 3 hours ago
Changing the color / adding some contrast would be quite a simple change
Comment by zyz 10 hours ago
Sharing this here in case anyone wants to check out the discussion there and see how it looks in the Verge's short review.
Comment by esperent 12 hours ago
It wasn't well explained what it was for though, I discovered it while messing with the settings and thought it was just a cool random feature to visualize motion. I'm just now learning it's for motion sickness.
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Comment by wongarsu 7 hours ago
But the beauty and pain of Android is every brand having slightly different UI. This might well be a manufacturer-specific feature. Or maybe it's a common Android thing that some brands just expose better than others
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Comment by mplanchard 2 hours ago
Not enough experience yet to say for sure whether they work, but the dots look so cool that I will keep it on regardless.
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Comment by oasisbob 8 hours ago
Somehow managed to fool it the other day by shutting a car trunk, helping someone load up, with me on the outside. It activated the dots for the rest of my walk afterwards, when I was using the phone.
I get the impression there are much more sophisticated signals and classification methods to determine whether someone is in a vehicle or not, beyond the accelerometers.
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I'd be curious what happens when you are in a vehicle that drives completely steady (no turns/acceleration/deceleration) - would it eventually turn off? I guess you wouldn't get motion sick in that case either way.
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Also, Lind is the brand you're likely to find sold alongside an ex-public-safety Toughbook. Since these were my first serious car computers, that's just how the majority of my mobile computing looked for a decade or more.
However, Toughbooks encased their HDD's in gel, and had been doing so since long before the advent of MEMS accelerometers, so they didn't jump on the HDAPS innovation along with IBM.
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Comment by JSR_FDED 1 hour ago
The you can use Command+Option+Plus and Command+Option+Minus to zoom the entire screen.
It’s a great way to zoom in on anything regardless of whether an app supports it or not. Sometimes I help family members remotely and look through a bad camera at a document on their side, and applying this zoom makes the difference between being able to decipher the content and not.
Comment by Tempest1981 7 hours ago
I guess they're moving in the opposite direction of the turn to force the perception of turning.
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Comment by Crespyl 12 hours ago
I find it acts a little like being able to see the cursor on a desktop or laptop; it provides a little bit of immediate feedback that the system recognized your intent, and helps make it clear whether it's the OS or just the app when things are getting laggy.
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Comment by duskwuff 12 hours ago
Under "Audio & Visual", "background sounds" is a built-in 'white noise' generator and can be useful for relaxing / sleeping. You wouldn't want to leave it on all the time, of course.
Under "Touch": "Back Touch" lets you map a double/triple tap on the back of the phone to various actions.
There's a lot of other neat features in iOS Accessibility (eye-tracking control! automatic captions! sound recognition!) and I'd encourage you to poke around to see what's available.
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Similarly, on MacOS I use the Zoom feature (Command Key + mouse scroll) to pixel peep when doing graphical work.
Comment by Dylan16807 11 hours ago
Do you think everyone gets motion sickness?
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iPhone 12 Pro (26.5.2)
Comment by pilif 7 hours ago
And yet, apparently it was.
It's not perfect, but the dots help me to go from instantly feeling sick to lasting 30-40 minutes before I have to stop looking at the screen.
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I never get nauseous looking at my phone in an Uber anymore. My wife can barely handle looking at a screen in a car and this feature allows her to work with no issue.
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Doing well as it quietly is coming up with helpful product updates like this which are buried in support docs and limited splash.
I kind of prefer this more quiet usage of application of AI.