AI companies spend record sums on Washington lobbying

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Comment by simonw 3 hours ago

> OpenAI nearly doubled its federal lobbying expenditure to a record $2.22mn in the first half of 2026, compared to last year, while Anthropic nearly tripled its spending to $3.53mn, according to federal disclosures.

Never ceases to amaze me how cheap lobbying is. That's pocket change for these companies.

Comment by Aunche 2 hours ago

Lobbying expenditures are given to lobbyists not politicians. You're primarily paying for the salary of some humanities or social science majors and their travel expenses, which isn't that much money.

This should be a basic fact. If those who spend a good portion of time being angry at lobbyists yet intelligent enough to make mid-six figures conflate bribery with lobbying, it should be no surprise the corporations have captured the government. The general public has essentially zero civic understanding while corporations are able to hire the few that do.

Comment by throwaw12 1 hour ago

> Lobbying expenditures are given to lobbyists not politicians. You're primarily paying for the salary of some humanities or social science majors and their travel expenses, which isn't that much money.

I don't think these are the only expenses, why should politician listen to them if lobbyists are not promising them support in next elections in the form of marketing, payments for expenses and so on

Comment by andrewla 1 hour ago

> why should politician listen to them if lobbyists are not promising them support in next elections in the form of marketing, payments for expenses and so on

Mostly because those things are directly illegal. Lobbying organizations (and PACs and SuperPACs etc.) are very limited in what they can provide either as direct monetary contributions or in-kind gifts to a candidate. The restrictions here are basically the same as those on an individual, but usually with more strict reporting requirements and lower limits.

The marketing aspect is the only thing that they can legally provide, and that's less a lobbying function than a PAC function, and they are not allowed to coordinate with the campaign or the candidate on this.

Comment by qwytw 54 minutes ago

Well a funding a PAC that supports a specific candidate/party who gets elected because of that effectively accomplishes the same thing. Of course the salary the company "buys" for them isn't exactly in the same magnitude as a direct bribe could potentially be (on the upper end at least).

Comment by Aunche 24 minutes ago

It's not as if being elected is the end all and be all to being a politician. Politicians have a vague idea of how they want to shape society, but they can't be experts in completely unrelated subjects of healthcare, military, AI infrastructure etc. A good lobbyist will help a politician achieve these goals in the field of their expertise (or at least try to convince the politician that they're helping).

Comment by throwaw12 9 minutes ago

Why lobbyist can't just present their ideas publicly, like do a public free lessons to politicians and anyone who wants to attend, if they're so eager to teach politicians?

Let them publicly say whatever they're preaching to politicians, and instead of 'funding' politicians directly, let them just teach everyone all at once.

I would love to hear what AIPAC teaches politicians

Comment by groundzeros2015 1 hour ago

They are interested in learning about topics from credible people that impact businesses and voters,

If the only motivation you can ascribe is making money or relection, it is circular. Wealthy people spend money to become politicians.

Comment by throwaw12 1 hour ago

> They are interested in learning about topics from credible people

Honestly, you surprised me with this statement alone. interested in learning? do you think Trump wants to learn anything from AIPAC? or Pharma lobby or Military Industrial complex?

What do politicans want to learn from Military Industrial complex or AIPAC lobby for example? What's there, that politicians don't know already?

Comment by mr_toad 1 hour ago

> What's there, that politicians don't know already?

They need to be ‘reminded’ of the issues that ‘campaign contributions’ are contingent upon.

Comment by groundzeros2015 44 minutes ago

They want to know what voters and business leaders care about. It’s in their interest for their reputation and succees.

Comment by undersuit 19 minutes ago

What about Crypto lobbying. What do you think switched Trump's position on cryptocurrencies, did he learn you can scam people legally?

Comment by throwaw12 15 minutes ago

You are right, my apologies. Indeed he learned something from them

Comment by nitwit005 1 hour ago

Even ignoring financial issues, people are generally willing to talk to major groups or industries. You tend not to get re-elected if you ignore everyone.

Comment by smallmancontrov 1 hour ago

The faintest whiff of a potential incentive wafted beneath the nose of an entrepreneur is enough to bring into motion the invisible hand. This is HN, that's what we do here. We assume that it is the same for politicians.

Lobbyists are in the business of wafting. It is quite enough for them to bring credible rumors of corporate agenda and plans to spend in pursuit of them. Political entrepreneurs will move to capture that spend without a single back-alley transaction involving burlap sacks of cash with comically large $ signs printed on the side. It has the same effect, though.

Comment by bko 1 hour ago

How should politicians be informed on these topics for which they are attempting to regulate? What's the alternative?

I think its entirely reasonable that the industries affected by regulations spend money to combat incorrect information like water usage of data centers.

Comment by triceratops 41 minutes ago

> How should politicians be informed on these topics for which they are attempting to regulate?

Provide them a bigger budget to hire their own staffers, who can do research?

Produce more non-partisan, publicly-funded research, data, and surveys?

Make them study themselves? How do judges get informed on topics they attempt to pass judgement on?

Comment by goldlimetea 1 hour ago

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Comment by user- 1 hour ago

Can you explain what you mean by

>some humanities or social science majors

this? Im sensing some meaning towards you calling out their degrees.

Your comment implies you have some deep civic understanding so can you expland on what your POV is? Im not american and would like to konw.

Comment by rayiner 1 hour ago

It seems like the empirical fact that lobbying is cheap is at odds with your apparent assumptions about the value companies gain from lobbying. Does that fact make you rethink your notion of what lobbying actually entails?

Lobbying is cheap because it’s just making powerpoint presentations to Congressional staffers. It’s helping them identify where the pre-existing political fault lines are and arming them with ammo for fights that will play out according to existing ideological positions. “K Street lobbyists” don’t even bill at the rates you see for corporate lawyers. $3 million per six months is what a company like Anthropic might burn in a single B2B lawsuit.

Comment by triceratops 52 minutes ago

> just making powerpoint presentations to Congressional staffers

And how does one get the access to do that?

Comment by rayiner 21 minutes ago

You can just call them up or email them and schedule a meeting.

Comment by ratelimitsteve 1 hour ago

If it's just making powerpoint presentations why do AI companies whose whole raison d'etre is that they can make these powerpoints in seconds for pennies spend millions on lobbying instead? Lobbying is cheap because it identifies the relatively small number of leverage points it takes to send society down one track instead of another and targets the spending there. Buy the right guy dinner and you get what you want just the same as if you'd spent billions on ads to convince millions of people to vote for the guy who's gonna do what you want.

Comment by rayiner 11 minutes ago

> If it's just making powerpoint presentations why do AI companies whose whole raison d'etre is that they can make these powerpoints in seconds for pennies spend millions on lobbying instead?

> Lobbying is cheap because it identifies the relatively small number of leverage points it takes to send society down one track instead of another and targets the spending there. Buy the right guy dinner and you get what you want just the same as if you'd spent billions on ads to convince millions of people to vote for the guy who's gonna do what you want.

If that were true, then the price of doing that would get bid up. It's extremely rare that you have an issue where there's not people with deep pockets on both sides of the issue.

Comment by xhevahir 57 minutes ago

> Lobbying is cheap because it’s just making powerpoint presentations to Congressional staffers.

No. It is not. For starters, ask anybody who works at a DC restaurant or sporting venue.

Comment by 01284a7e 3 hours ago

It's so cheap that normal people could band together and re-buy democracy. It's the banding together part that is hard.

Comment by jonas21 2 hours ago

Many of the groups that spend the most on lobbying are composed of "normal" people who have banded together for some common interest. For example:

- The AARP ($21M annual spend) has 38M members

- The National Association of Realtors ($54M annual spend) has 1.5M members

- The American Medical Association ($24M annual spend) has 300K members

Of course that doesn't mean that their interests necessarily align with your interests.

Comment by 0xdeadbeefbabe 2 hours ago

Also if they want my money then their interests align.

Comment by smallmancontrov 2 hours ago

"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices." - Adam Smith

Comment by ben_w 1 hour ago

A curious choice of quote on a tech forum attached to a VC firm :P

Comment by smallmancontrov 1 hour ago

You know what would be cool? A national startup accelerator!

Comment by programmertote 1 hour ago

It really irks me for some reason that American Medical Association (one of the top spenders in lobbying) is doing the lobbying. I did a quick Gemini/Google search and these are the topics they lobby for.

``` Core Legislative PrioritiesMedicare Reform:

Fighting to fix stagnant physician payment formulas and account for inflation.

Prior Authorization: Pushing to reduce administrative roadblocks and delays enforced by insurance companies.

Scope of Practice: Opposing laws that expand independent clinical roles for non-physicians like nurse practitioners and pharmacists.

Burnout Reduction: Supporting federal and organizational relief to help doctors manage workplace stress and administrative tasks.

-- Public Health and Science

Public Health Crises: Supporting science-based policies on vaccinations, gun violence prevention, and chronic disease reduction.

Digital Health: Guiding regulations for artificial intelligence and telehealth integration in medical practices ```

Most of these are about keeping the gate (i.e., doctor's compensation high). The US doctors are the highest paid in the world (among developed countries like UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, etc.) by a long shot. Kind of mad if you think about it.

Disclaimer: My spouse is a specialist doctor. You can say I have selfish interest in keeping doctor's salaries high in the US. But I can't help highlighting that doctor's guilds (like AMA) are part of the reasons why the healthcare expenses are so high in the US.

Comment by nancyminusone 3 hours ago

I already pay for my government in taxes (which ironically these big cos don't pay).

Besides, if I were to gather up 4 million to lobby, the opposition would simply spend 8 million instead which they could come up with just as easily. They don't have to outrun the bear, the just have to outrun you.

Comment by simonw 3 hours ago

Yeah, I would like my taxes to go to paying for expertise to help make good governance decisions, personally.

Comment by TeMPOraL 2 hours ago

Oh so you're aligned with AI lobbying then?

j/k, but then again, it's not like we have other means to "help make good governance decisions" that we haven't already tried before. Maybe except the failed cybernetics experiments that came a little before their time and in the wrong political regime, but then those are effectively replicated by any large multinational internally to some extent.

Comment by triceratops 3 hours ago

Normal people can't offer speaking fees, consulting gigs, and other sinecures to politicians and their staffers after they leave the government.

Comment by thewebguyd 2 hours ago

Right. That's what actually buys you the politician. Being able to promise "Pass this regulation for us and we'll make sure you are set up for life, since we know it's politically unfavorable"

the ~$2M just gets your foot in the door, that's it.

Comment by triceratops 2 hours ago

And also they can threaten to fund an opponent's PAC.

Comment by vjvjvjvjghv 1 hour ago

That's the real evil. Once a super PAC has enough money, they don't even have to spend it. The threat alone is enough to get most Congress people back in line.

Comment by reactordev 2 hours ago

Or primary you

Comment by triceratops 1 hour ago

Opponents run in primaries too, not just general elections.

Comment by salemh 2 hours ago

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Comment by Aurornis 2 hours ago

This is what a PAC is. Political Action Committee.

They primarily only get headlines for outrage topics when people don’t like what they’re pushing toward. Many of the top PACs are from groups like realtors or sheet metal workers lobbying for their interests.

Most people skip PACs and donate straight to political candidates instead. Individual donations to candidates outweigh anything the AI companies are spending by a huge number.

Comment by CSSer 2 hours ago

Yes, and it’s trivial to form one! If you look up the documentation necessary you may not believe your eyes.

Comment by carlosjobim 24 minutes ago

Why should it be hard? It's something which should be completely unregulated in a free country.

Comment by smallmancontrov 2 minutes ago

Letting mega-billionaires spend mega-millions to buy the conversation around elections isn't my definition of freedom.

Comment by renegade-otter 3 hours ago

I think of that Netflix series on FIFA and its rampant corruption. The bribes in question are laughable, considering that FIFA is a multi-billion dollar operation, and it's always some round number like $1M. At least add some cents to it so it's not glaringly obvious in the bank accounts.

Comment by TeMPOraL 2 hours ago

Are the bribes round, or is it just usual bullshit journalism practice of fudging the numbers and rounding them in the process (usually made apparent when there are multiple reports for the same number, each using different units of currency or measure).

Comment by mb5 2 hours ago

Plenty of nice round numbers in this indictment: https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/file/450211/dl?inline

Search for “Wire transfer of” to jump to them.

Plus a couple of $1,666,667 which stand out in contrast to all the zeroes.

Comment by reactordev 2 hours ago

They are usually round so that those who worked on it can get paid.

Comment by alkr-g234 1 hour ago

And you cannot offer the Kushner family OpenAI shares. The 4 million is just the surface.

Comment by voicedYoda 2 hours ago

That's how Groupon originally started.

Comment by jMyles 2 hours ago

It seems to me that there's really nothing at that store that "normal people" want to buy.

Everything that we want to do can be done through ordinary collaboration with no need for the state. The special services which the state provides (violence and threats of violence, imperialism, inhibition of movement of people and goods across imaginary lines, etc) are the kinds of things that are really only interesting to the kinds of people who are already spending their money on lobbying.

Comment by runarberg 2 hours ago

It would not surprise me that the cost of lobbying rises exponentially as the policy moves left on the political spectrum. That pro-business, pro-austerity, neo-liberal policy is orders of magnitude cheaper to lobby for, then pro-worker, pro-democracy, pro-consumer policy.

Comment by philipallstar 1 hour ago

Pro business is pro consumer.

Comment by triceratops 57 minutes ago

Pro business is pro business. That's reality, not a value judgement.

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Comment by verisimi 2 hours ago

"re-buy democracy"

Comment by vitorfblima 2 hours ago

It says a lot, if you think about it.

Comment by jmyeet 1 hour ago

The estimated spending on the 2026 election season is $11.6 billion [1]. One primary has had an estimated $60 million spent on it (ie the Michigan Democratic primary). Thomas Massie's primary had an estimated $35 million spent on it. A GOP Super PAC has earmarked $342 million for 8 Senate races [2].

Over $5 billion was spent on lobbying in 2025 [3].

To truly move policy you need to get pliable representatives first and that's not just money. There is a pipeline here. First, you get the right connections. That could be coming from a wealth family, be the nephew or grandson of some politician, do your time as a staffer or whatever. Going up through the ranks acts as a giant filter to make sure you will maintain the status quo. So you have to find candidates to run for these offices who have been weeded out by the existing processes. And if you don't have enough of them, the DNC or RNC will spend selectively against you in the primary and general election. And an increasing number of races have over $100 million spent on them.

Buying back democracy would be very, very expensive.

And then after all that there's the income and jobs pipeline. Your children get six-figure jobs with think tanks and interested companies. You leave office and get placed on boards of large companies. You can't compete with that.

[1]: https://finance.yahoo.com/media-advertising/articles/2026-el...

[2]: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5818507-gop-super-pac-...

[3]: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying

Comment by jerf 2 hours ago

Compared to the bailout they're going to get at some point, because they're vital to national security and whatever, I think you could easily be looking at a 1000x+ return on investment on those numbers.

Comment by williamcotton 16 minutes ago

Tangentially,

> "Add up all US spending on candidates, PACs, lobbying, think tanks, and advocacy organizations – liberal and conservative combined – and we’re still $2 billion short of what we spend on almonds each year."

https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/18/too-much-dark-money-in...

Comment by InsideOutSanta 2 hours ago

These numbers are so small that I'm doubly ashamed of all the corruption happening. If politicians at least sold out for fuck-you money, I'd understand, but no.

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Comment by ergocoder 46 minutes ago

That's like 1 principle engineer. That's it.

Comment by pstuart 15 minutes ago

My understanding is that you can buy a US Senator for ~ $50K cash in pocket, but with inflation maybe that's gone up too.

Comment by aleqs 1 hour ago

The real lobbying here is the fact that key politicians own combined billions in AI and related company stock.

Comment by kazinator 2 hours ago

It's pocket change now, but they are lobbying hard now knowing well they won't be able to afford it later.

Comment by butlike 2 hours ago

Well you don't want to push the price up any more than you have to since then each subsequent lobby will cost a minimum of that amount.

Comment by peterbell_nyc 2 hours ago

Wow - so one really good researchers salary/stock grant. I feel like they're underinvesting...

Comment by smallmancontrov 1 hour ago

That's what my microeconomics professor said shortly after Citizens United. "If political campaigns were that good of an investment, they'd be investing more!" ...and then they did. Outside spending absolutely took off after 2010 and shows no signs of slowing down. The conclusion he jumped to was false and it was false because he ignored the possibility that price discovery might take a while.

Comment by shevy-java 2 hours ago

That's most definitely not the real sum.

People need to look at financial kick backs. There is a certain guy here in central Europe who left politics quite recently, but suddenly has 400 million euros wealth - out of nowhere. And nobody questions how he got that ...

The corruption happens not only via direct lobbyism. One has to look at the whole corruption bribe bubble here.

Comment by qwytw 52 minutes ago

Funding their reelection, industry "connections" making it easy for you or your relatives to get jobs or make profitable investments, opportunities to get speaking fees after you leave office and similar perfectly legal things are probably much more common than cash bribes.

Comment by gruez 54 minutes ago

Obligatory: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/18/too-much-dark-money-in...

>Add up all US spending on candidates, PACs, lobbying, think tanks, and advocacy organizations – liberal and conservative combined – and we’re still $2 billion short of what we spend on almonds each year.

Comment by bena 3 hours ago

Because lobbying is essentially just the process of petitioning the government. Mostly.

It's buying dinners so you can talk with a Representative or Senator one-on-one. It's traveling to D.C. or the Congressperson's home state. It's paying for studies and etc to support your points. It's financing campaigns of politicians who already agree with your viewpoints. It's not "here's money, make law".

Comment by wat10000 2 hours ago

It's also financing campaigns of politicians who don't agree with your viewpoints in the (fully justified) hope that they'll look upon you more favorably if they win. It's thinly veiled promises of cushy jobs after they leave office, if they play ball.

Comment by paytonjjones 3 hours ago

Alternatively, couldn't this be seen as evidence on favor of the "corporate narrative" on lobbying? Namely, that the purpose of lobbying is to ensure politicians have instant and easy access to high-quality, insider information relevant to their decision-making on corporate issues (as opposed to simply being bribed)?

I remember my poli sci teacher on college tried very hard to convince the class of this (with little success).

Comment by dividefuel 3 hours ago

I have a family member who's a lobbyist. When he talks about his job, a common theme is that a huge amount of his work is trying assess the impacts of policy on businesses (albeit mainly big businesses) and make sure lawmakers are able to take that into consideration. I don't know how well that represents lobbying as a whole, but that part always made sense and didn't seem like a bribe.

Several million dollars, as mentioned in the article, could easily be the cost of paying, e.g., 20 people to perform and communicate an assessment, as opposed to a direct "donation" to a politician. It's not said where that money was spent.

Comment by vjvjvjvjghv 1 hour ago

My ex worked at Congress for a few years so I got a little bit of view on the inside. There are a lot of lobbyists who do honest work and try to present correct data. Same for politicians. A lot of them (most?) really want to do a good job and make the country better. But, like in corporations, it's the psychopaths that only care for their own benefit and nothing else, who make it to the top and get to make the big decisions.

My ex was around when they worked on Obamacare. There were a lot of really good ideas floating around that had broad buy-in but then the super partisans and corrupt (say Lieberman and Baucus) destroyed it and created a big, but profitable for some, mess.

And with the increased spending after Citizens United it's only going to get worse.

Comment by rawgabbit 2 hours ago

Reminds me of the time Tony Blair left office and went to work for JP Morgan Chase.

https://www.forbes.com/2008/01/10/jpmorgan-consultancy-advis...

Comment by kylecazar 3 hours ago

I never understood that narrative either. You won't get high quality information from someone that is paying you for influence. You will get a lopsided/biased perspective, and the unwritten expectation is you will use it or contributions will cease.

Congress can and does ask companies for their expertise/stance on any given issue or policy, for free. They want to be involved for the same reason they lobby.

Comment by paytonjjones 3 hours ago

The same could be said about the judicial system though, right? Both the prosecution and defense are paid to influence the judge, and will naturally provide a biased perspective. But that doesn't mean there's not high quality information within.

I don't think biased information is a total dead end, but the onus is just on judges and politicians to tease out information from more than one angle. And often they don't.

Comment by qwytw 48 minutes ago

It's up to the congressman to weight all evidence and data available and come to well informed conclusion. If they are incapable or unwilling to do that that's a different issue.

> Congress can and does ask companies for their expertise/stance

They are inherently incapable of identify all these companies or measure the impact of their policies on their own, though (which is perfectly understandable, well I guess these days they can use an LLM to make this easier... /s)

Comment by roysting 1 hour ago

It always has been. Frankly, sometimes they don't even spend anything at all at lower levels, it's just a conversation, a meeting with an animatronic bureaucrat high on their own self-importance and power, in a mandatory spending jukebox of incompetence and failure. I have seen people squander millions simply because they were too incompetent to properly run an organization, plan, and budget and they needed to spend the money merely so it is not taken from them next budget cycle. I am also witness to corruption and nepotism that wildly enriches people merely because doing so is easy and does not require actual work.

The return on "lobbying" for corporations is immense, actually, it's a bit of a high cost, high return with some risks type of dynamic; but especially in the Beltway bandit den and increasingly in the silicon cartel valley they have worked out a systematic methodology for bamboozling and manipulating utterly inadequately prepared bureaucrats squandering other people's money with approaching zero consequences. No, even they not only don't face consequences, they are promoted faster the better and faster they can squander money and enrich friends and associates.

Forget the lobby, the parlor is where it's at.

Comment by TheTaytay 37 minutes ago

Lots of pitchforks in these comments.

If you had read that the EFF was meeting with lawmakers in the US to convince them that there was no secure way to allow the government to break e2e encryption, or had read that academics were banding together to ask the government not to make open weight LLMs illegal, what would your reaction be? What if told you that those organizations had actually paid a consultant to help them navigate getting appointments with the lawmakers?

Lobbying can be bribery, and that’s bad. Paying a professional to talk to lawmakers about something that is in your best interest is definitely less bad.

The alternative that many people claim to want (no lobbying or money in politics legally) is a lot closer to what is happening in more authoritarian regimes. If there is no way to legally speak your mind or pay someone to do so, political purity and perfect congressional understanding of nuanced topics doesn’t magically appear.

Comment by falcor84 21 minutes ago

You're making this very dichotomous, but I'm not convinced. Why shouldn't there be a way to bring issues to the parliament's attention without private money? For example, while flawed, the EU's Citizens' Initiative approach seems to be doing some good work bringing attention to issues that are in the public interest. I'd encourage us to look more extensively into these sort of open initiatives.

Comment by jbm 22 minutes ago

Lobbying, as it is practised in the US, is hardly better than bribery. Talking to lawmakers about what is exclusively in your best interest, to the exclusion of everything else, is harmful. You wind up leveraging a group collective's understanding of dishonesty and dark speech patterns. No citizen has the eloquence or bull pulpit to oppose this.

That said, this is how the US works now. It might have started with military-industrial companies, but it is basically wide spread. Unfortunately, once the taboo is broken, it is broken permanently.

Comment by atlasunshrugged 1 hour ago

For technical minded US folks who read about this and are outraged and/or interested in how they can do more politically, I highly recommend checking out fellowship programs like TechCongress and Horizon which place technical experts in Congress for a year (disclosure, I'm an alum) and have become critical sources of expertise in a world dominated by nontechnical folks. TechCongress applications for next year closed, but I believe Horizon's are still open.

https://techcongress.io/ https://horizonpublicservice.org/

Comment by dboreham 1 hour ago

I've always wondered: is this actually wanted? I ask because I live in a low population state where it's fairly easy to make contact with politicians' offices and there have been various cases over the years where I've noticed things occurring that seem off from a technical perspective, and have offered to help. Nobody ever seemed interested, which led me to believe their incentives lie somewhere other than "getting things right" or "learning the truth". (both parties, fwiw).

Comment by thaumaturgy 1 hour ago

I did this in Oregon earlier this year for legislation that sat at the intersection of tech and surveillance. I am currently a registered lobbyist as a consequence of those efforts (for which I have been paid $0).

In my experience, yes, it is actually wanted. But, it's not enough to just offer to help. Legislative processes are very very human -- i.e., you have to spend time in person, meeting people, getting to know people, remembering their names and faces and trivia about them, building relationships. When you're not doing that, you have to be making informational materials. And when you're not doing that, you have to be building influence in whatever community or subject area you're trying to represent the interests of.

It would be really wonderful to see more people with the means to do so getting involved in this way. One of the reasons everything seems to be getting worse in so many areas is that most of the people doing this work aren't doing it on behalf of the interests of the average person.

Comment by atlasunshrugged 20 minutes ago

Yes, I would echo that -- it's not something that I think is helpful to just drop into and offer specific technical expertise, but it is very much wanted if you're willing to build longer term relationships to understand the politics, office, and interests that all come wrapped up in a bill and the legislative process

Comment by wkandek 26 minutes ago

Does not seem like a lot. US Chamber of Commerce spends 600M/year, Meta 160M, Bayer 73M, Toyota 64M. https://www.openlobby.us/clients

Comment by SwellJoe 1 hour ago

Anthropic has been pretty transparent that their plan for dealing with Chinese open models is regulatory capture. All the fear-mongering and posturing that AI is so dangerous only they can be trusted with it. They want to legislate their competition away, at least in a few markets. OpenAI has been more subtle about it.

It's a dangerous gamble, and bad for the US. But, given how cheaply many of our politicians can be purchased and how much money is flowing into the leading AI companies (and a bunch of also-rans), I guess we should expect to see them rolling the dice on that gamble.

Comment by zombittack 2 hours ago

You would think if the general public actually wanted this, lobbying wouldn't be necessary. Call your reps. Let them know how you feel about intellectual property theft, wage theft, ecological impacts, and the intentional erosion of the voting power of the majority in modern democracy.

Comment by FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago

Yes, call your reps. See if anything changes since the last time you called them.

Comment by hermannj314 1 hour ago

It is hard to find actual data that supports the claim that calling your congressperson matters, mostly the internet is full of anecdata and wishful thinking.

Effective altruism has some data that suggests it works marginally for state leglislators but works quite well for undecided federal officials.

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/5oStggnYLGzomhvvn/...

Comment by groundzeros2015 1 hour ago

You don’t have credibility. someone in Washington who goes to lunches with senators does.

Comment by raspberryhead 56 minutes ago

Lobbying should be illegal at this scale.

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Comment by dboreham 1 hour ago

This is axiomatic -- organizations are going to spend some proportion of the money they have to bribe politicians in their favor, modulo the RoI which will vary a bit case to case. Therefor the more money the organization has the more they're going to be bribing. AI companies at present have tons of money. Taken to the limit you get AIPAC.

Comment by ChrisArchitect 4 hours ago

Is anyone reading your endless ft.com posts?

https://archive.ph/PASMJ

Comment by butlike 2 hours ago

I never used to mind captchas until llms came around. Now, train your own damn robot

Comment by peter_stokes 3 hours ago

for the first time ever, i got a reCaptcha that required me to scan a QR code? Thankfully when I refreshed the page, I got a new busclicking captcha

Comment by nozzlegear 2 hours ago

> I got a new busclicking captcha

Busclickers are S-tier captchas IMO, always easy to identify. Motorcycles and bicycles, on the other hand, are maybe the worst – D-tier at best.

/tangent

Comment by SoftTalker 1 hour ago

And they don't seem to be very particular. I just click a few boxes and usually get past it.

Comment by nozzlegear 1 hour ago

I used to make a game of seeing how few matches, or how many deliberate mismatches, I could get away with while still passing the captcha. It asks for 4 bus images? How about 3 bus images, or 2 bus images and a car?

Comment by dieselgate 3 hours ago

I've been seeing them too. Towards the bottom of the recaptcha box there's an option to select "conventional" or similar and not use QR, it's easy to miss

Comment by peter_stokes 3 hours ago

oh, thanks for pointing this out ill click that next time. i can be a bit unaware sometimes.

one time i visited a compromised site that put up a fake cloudflare challenge that told me to paste a script into powershell, and i was all ladeeda nothing seems wrong. only because i forgot how to paste in powershell, did i not run it. i sure tried though. I typed ctrl v about 5 times not realizing it wasnt supported in powershell and then ragequit. funnily enough, whne i refreshed that page to try and get rid of the challenge the page loaded fine. I fail upward like this all the time.

Comment by mrloopex 2 hours ago

And this is after crypto bros spent record sums on lobbying 5 years ago.

Comment by tudou527 2 hours ago

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Comment by shevy-java 2 hours ago

That's not new though. Washington succumbed to bribes decades ago already. It just is much more apparent now with the orange king and his billionaire bodies. The Epstein network must be much bigger than what is already known. It is also most likely still existing today, just with different actors. Billionaires want to party - often with people below a certain age ...

Comment by Arodex 2 hours ago

My latest Epstein WTF moment: moot (yeah, the guy from 4chan). Epstein even drive him back home... /pol/ was created a few days later. Qanon went on to start there, before moving to 8chan, a competitor bought by Jim Watkins (and certainly Bannon behind him).

Comment by Kapura 3 hours ago

is that good

Comment by whatever1 3 hours ago

Everyone should be lobbying. It is the golden era of lobbying with 100% success rates. Whether you are in AI or the lettuce industry.

Comment by SirHackalot 2 hours ago

It was always the era of lobbying, now you just shower the gold-obsessed king with tribute — crypto, ballroom funds, a private jet — in order to buy a presidential decree. Just lay gold and silver at the feet of the monarch and wait for your royal pardon or policy favor.

Comment by scottyah 1 hour ago

It was so funny when Apple gave Trump an actual gold bar

Comment by vitorfblima 2 hours ago

I know many people who are using AI, but only a few are actually eating their lettuces, so I guess there's some conflict there