GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)
Posted by AbuAssar 5 hours ago
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Comment by nottorp 1 hour ago
They just keep threatening governments in hope they get a legal monopoly.
Comment by Qhemlomo 4 hours ago
It changes my whole profession on a level i couldn't even imagine how we would 'solve' software engineering.
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Comment by malfist 3 hours ago
I assure, it doesn't.
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Comment by Qhemlomo 3 hours ago
My wife has 0 knowledge how any of this works.
That was shocking to see.
Progress is not stoping and Fable proves that.
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Comment by Qhemlomo 3 hours ago
I was working in a company before which used md5 in 2015! Databases on the internet with a 5 character password. No tests.
A person i know would have broken the whole production DB if i wouldn't have stoped the PR.
Another ex-collegue thought its okay to 'encrypt' with a basic shift cyper creditcard data.
I don't think any of these companies care that much
Comment by GTP 2 hours ago
Indeed. Is Mythos going to change this?
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Comment by StableAlkyne 3 hours ago
Before gen code killed the freelance business model, there were hoards of people on Upwork/Fiverr willing to fuck other freelancers over and underpay themselves to make whatever barely-working slop you wanted.
Hell, before managers got the idea of AI layoffs, they had been off-shoring to low-quality code sweatshops for years. That was supposed to kill software engineering in the States 20 years ago. And it was just as frustrating (if not moreso) to get them to actually fulfill the project requirements.
Comment by realusername 3 hours ago
It's true that they can start amazing projects without guidance but then the real work begins.
Comment by jason_oster 2 hours ago
Keep in mind, these are not products in the endless feature treadmill promoted by scrum.
Comment by jason_oster 2 hours ago
- A mod manager for Vintage Story in Swift.
- A GameShark Pro adapter using an ESP32 that hosts a web app for dumping N64 ROMs and searching for cheat codes.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1hxa3kj/ai_reached...
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Comment by minimaxir 3 hours ago
For regular coding, GPT-2 was effectively useless because it was only trained from links posted on Reddit.
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Comment by suburban_strike 9 minutes ago
AI brings normal people dangerously close to seeing through the matrix of lies that shape "their" values and beliefs. I remember those discussions from 2019; everybody was as baffled as you about the potential harm.
> What is meant by AI "safety"? [2023]
> "AI safety is an interdisciplinary field concerned with preventing accidents, misuse, or other harmful consequences that could result from artificial intelligence (AI) systems. It encompasses machine ethics and AI alignment, which aim to make AI systems moral and beneficial, and AI safety encompasses technical problems including monitoring systems for risks and making them highly reliable."
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38374739
(Ask your favorite AI to divine what that pseudointellectual word salad isn't addressing. "We want it to not cause harm--accidentally--and always work in our interests, whenever we need it to.")
I've been around long enough to remember the Anarchist Cookbook, yet the only threats posed by AI that anybody was confident about enough to consistently name in 202X were instruction for building pipe bombs, synthesizing meth, and...antisemitism. I did not understand at the time why Jews were so nervous about it.
Only as of 2023 has the scope broadened, but it's still pretty lame. Planning school shootings, suicide, parasocial relationships with AI, mass job displacement, cults of SHODAN (marxism, feminism, x-theory, etc.) escaping containment memetically, automated malware campaigns, fraud at scale, propaganda, murderous drones-- none of these were threats worth discussion. Suggesting them would get you called nasty names.
The "safety" zealots all claim to want to prevent marginalization and genocide, but the end result is that they get to redefine it to indict and condemn their enemies:
> New UNESCO report warns that Generative AI threatens Holocaust memory (unesco.org) [2024]
> 'AI-assisted genocide': Israel reportedly used database for Gaza kill lists (aljazeera.com) [2024]
> XAI's Grok suddenly can't stop bringing up "white genocide" in South Africa (arstechnica.com) [2025]
If you mentioned SkyNET in 2019 you were denounced as crazy, yet:
> Israel built an 'AI factory' for war. It unleashed it in Gaza (washingtonpost.com) [2025]
> Israel's AI targeting system: how data from a phone become a death sentence (latimes.com) [2026]
The first order of "safety" in 2019 was specifically engineered to undermine anticipated insurgent activity in response to a series of events that hadn't yet been perpetrated by the world's largest caste of professional victims. Chemistry knowledge is foundational to explosives development, and drug sales raise funds off-books that cannot be digitally seized. That presents problems for them.
October 7, Gaza, Epstein, etc. were post-2023. If you boot up Vicuna [2023] and try to "teach" it what's gone down in the world since its training cutoff, it'll call you nasty names, accuse you of blood libel and shut the conversation down. Safety!
AI is the only effective weapon we have against sophisticated lies and fraud. Make no mistake about it-- plebes possessing a power drill that can penetrate the lies of the elite is the real danger. Everybody is noticing AI getting "dumber." It's not the magic fading; the zealots are gaslighting you as they pour garbage into the training data. Go take WizardLM for a spin again and see what you've lost.
> "[Our institutions] are reflections of the society that created them. Nobody is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them. Nobody is going to teach you your true history, teach you your true heroes; if they know that, that knowledge will help set you free."
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The social damage caused by low cost content generation that’s hard to distinguish from human authorship is astronomical. You don’t need to entertain the more ridiculous doomsday scenarios to wish that this technology had never been created.
Comment by qurren 4 hours ago
I've stopped scrolling social media and tired of seeing fake landscapes, fake foods, and fake cities that don't exist.
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I shouldn't have targeted the developing world as much as the incentives made by social media platforms needing to get growth in other ways than usercount.
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Comment by nonethewiser 4 hours ago
I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.
Comment by FabCH 3 hours ago
I feel like that is a good example. Now multiply that by hundreds of millions of AI generated propaganda images across the world.
And that’s even without touching the effect of fake videos on democracy or Elons pedo-bot that generates CSAM on demand of specific people…
Comment by hk__2 3 hours ago
I feel like this is the worst example, actually, because here it’s 100% clear to anyone that it’s AI-generated content. The danger is more about AI-generated fake images/videos disguised as real content.
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Comment by FabCH 3 hours ago
Yes, but two things were lost:
1) the need for skill or an accomplice. He _couldn’t_ tweet that image in 2016, not without first asking someone to photoshop it. And that need to engage in human to human communication is something truly fundamental that was changed and lost.
2) Any ambiguity or misunderstanding. Yes bad textual tweets exist for a long time in politics. But there IS something about images that is more powerful than text. The text „I’m Jesus Christ and god sent me to heal the sick“ would probably make the news, but a lot of people would go: „is he quoting the bible? What’s going on?“, not so much with Jesus Picture.
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Comment by nonethewiser 3 hours ago
Does that say anything about AI or everything about Donald Trump?
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Comment by _aavaa_ 3 hours ago
The solution to the cheating is, as has always been, to have tests conducted in person, on paper without digital technology, under strict supervision.
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Comment by stanmancan 3 hours ago
You can and do have full conversations with bots and not know. I want to interact with humans not LLMs.
There’s no way to combat it. An army of bots can post a specific rhetoric and it can and does sway people’s opinions.
The new version of Digg was shut down because they couldn’t find a way to combat AI. They were at least trying to, other platforms are just eating it up because “user activity” is a win for them.
Comment by legitster 3 hours ago
AI is accelerating but also perhaps backfilling in what was already being lost.
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Comment by witx 3 hours ago
Is it really that hard to understand?
Comment by dijksterhuis 2 hours ago
i'm no fan of the politician, but scams like this one are increasing at a significant rate and are a lot harder for non-technically minded people to spot, think your grandmother etc
also recently https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7pl7zj024o
also: grok CSAM; plundering massive swathes of copyrighted material / intellectual property; making electricity more expensive for regular folks; increasing global carbon footprint building massive data centres; destroying a whole swathe of entry level jobs for recent grads (not just software junior roles); circular funding deals to keep the bubble (scam) alive, while positioning the large companies as necessary for govt. work so when the bubble bursts tax payers will have to bail them out; people with mental health issues being left to run riot with the tool; suicides; the degradation of human knowledge workers using their knowledge (the muscle atrophies when you don't use it cos "ai said yes") ...
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Comment by Qhemlomo 4 hours ago
I want to see a Star Trek economy/society in my lifetime. I only life once.
Btw. AI/LLM/Machine learning is the gateway technology for robotics, this will affect even more.
Comment by pixl97 4 hours ago
While Star Trek is fiction, it's probably a good idea to understand the history of how the ST utopia came about, at the cost of a third of the worlds population and decades of suffering.
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Comment by thewebguyd 3 hours ago
It was (aside from first contact, and the subsequent development of the replicator which enabled the post scarcity economy). The federation was built from the war, not after it.
Suffering is what made the utopia possible, and if ever get to the point of nearing a post scarcity economy, we are likely to experience the same. Progress is built on catastrophe. Whether or not you call it progress depends on if you are born later after the catastrophe and can look back and call it progress, or if you lived through the suffering without seeing the end result.
Comment by Qhemlomo 3 hours ago
But lets be honest, i don't know that, you don't either. But if a critical mass is reached, faster, we might need to actually solve this problem instead of migrating to a very dystopian future.
Stoping is not an option i think. Anthropic vs. OpenAI vs. Google <<< they ahve so much money and so much to loose. And then we have USA vs. China.
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Comment by stackghost 3 hours ago
Sure but when serial grifter Sam Altman said it was "too dangerous" what he meant was that he wanted regulators to create him an artificial competitive moat so Anthropic et al couldn't catch up.
Serial grifter Sam Altman does not care about anything but making money, and certainly doesn't care about ethics. That's why serial grifter Sam Altman's company trained its models on pirated textbooks and copyrighted works without paying. Rules for thee but not for me.
Serial grifter Sam Altman doesn't care if society unravels because he is so rich that laws and consequences do not apply to him.
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Comment by throwaw12 4 hours ago
They were not wrong, indeed whole industries are running on this technology maliciously now, because of which RAM, disk prices increased a lot.
- RAM, GPU, Disk prices are up
- Slop became the norm
- people are writing documents with AI, reading with AI, responding with AI
- students are doing homeworks with AI
- interviewees are using AI to cheat
- people are mass emailing with AI
- tiktok, instagram, youtube got even more non-sense videos
- and many more...Comment by functionmouse 4 hours ago
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In 2000 Sony "declared that the company’s PlayStation2 has been hit with export restriction because it could be used for military purposes"
"Trade officials said they initially placed restrictions on the game console because PlayStation2’s high-speed graphic processing could be used for missile guidance."
[1] https://variety.com/2000/biz/news/playstation2-export-regs-e...
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Comment by wongarsu 4 hours ago
GPT-5.5 seems more dangerous in those regards
Comment by ChrisArchitect 4 hours ago
OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)
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Comment by Qhemlomo 4 hours ago
And tbh do you prefer companies not taking anything serious?
Opus 4.5 def changed a lot already, GenAI changed a lot.
Certain jobs are gone. Do you think the person who was translating text doesn't deserve to be taken serious?
I haven't written code in a few month now and the quality of these coding agents is not getting worse, they are getting better.
All of this is transformable and we just started. GPT-3 came out in 2020 and public got access to it only 2022.
The last 4 years do not feal like 4 years and we are still progressing.
We have to also ask us as a society what is happening to young people. Even if we accept that we still hire juniors, they themselves have to completly rethink how they learn and how they work.