SDSU Wired Its Dorms with 1,300 AI Cameras Without Telling Students
Posted by iamnothere 2 days ago
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Comment by cwmoore 1 day ago
becomes:
“an area open to public use, where reasonable expectation of no privacy exists”
Comment by spwa4 1 day ago
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Comment by HDBaseT 1 day ago
Reading the title suggested to me that the cameras were installed even in the doom rooms, but this isn't the case. The article reads a bit strange "and the residence halls where students sleep." but the students don't sleep in the hall, they sleep in rooms adjacent to the hall.
Comment by steanne 1 day ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Student_accommoda...
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Comment by Brian_K_White 1 day ago
If I find you in public and start staring at you and following you everywhere without ever going away, including camping out at the door of every private space you enter and exit. You will absolutely have a problem with it. We even have a word for it and laws about it.
The fact that the barista saw you at the coffee shop and your roomate saw you at the library and the book store has an ordinary security camera are nothing remotely equivelant.
One is stalking, even harassment, and the others are not.
Comment by throwburn202605 1 day ago
Scale is what matters.
Being in public and being incidently recorded or photographed by a set of separate, independent recorders is substantially different than an all seeing panopticon, controlled one entity who can collate, analyse, track, trace through time (maybe years back).
It's not you who determines guilt. And surveillance is more likely to be used against you for minor asinine things (if only to justify its own existence), than used for you in major incidents it is claimed to be installed for.
Comment by Ekaros 1 day ago
Now combine this to all other data like say payments and well even more identifying points are in the data... Local only video records is entirely different game than being tracked for your whole day...
Comment by Jamesbeam 1 day ago
Why would anyone carry a palm-size non-traceable drone with a glass breaker on campus you might ask. Are they going to break the cameras? Of course not, that’s highly illegal.
Students care deeply about the wellbeing of fellow students and professors, just like the University seems to care so much that they installed AI cameras for 1.3 mil USD. Safety first.
What if one of your fellow students crashes their car on campus and needs to be rescued in style? Evaluate explosion risk, decide to break glass with the drone from a safe distance, then quickly move in to cut the seat belt and extract the crashed driver.
Drones are cool tech, students at SDSU should experiment with them way more and establish their presence on campus. Maybe even make a nationwide university sport out of it. National Drone Rescue Championships anyone?
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Comment by Jamesbeam 19 hours ago
Also, theoretically, unlike with a smoking car wreck, you would have basically unlimited chances to find the right angle for the lens if you tried.
Who’s going to stop you? The campus security drone defence squad?
Most likely, some middle-aged dude will try to angrily yell at it and hit it with a mop, miss it a few times, then yell some more, and it goes viral on TikTok. But doing crime is bad, so don’t ever destroy an AI camera.
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Comment by MarkusQ 1 day ago
I'll bet they installed smoke detectors and emergency lighting and all sorts of other things without telling students either.
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Comment by RetroTechie 1 day ago
Is this institution's campus such a dangerous / crime-ridden area that it warrants 1,300 cameras to track everyone everywhere @ all times? Hmm...
Comment by MarkusQ 7 hours ago
I'm not a fan of surveillance per se, but acting like this is disproportionate is just silly.