10k-watt GPU meet 40-watt lump of meat

Posted by speckx 3 hours ago

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Comment by perching_aix 58 minutes ago

Fun title, I'll bite:

- not aware of any 10 kilowatt GPUs in this world, certainly not in the sense where a GPU = a single chip at least, which is I'd say what most everyone would associate to - the author probably thinks of the DGX H100 (obviously), which is an 8 GPU cluster

- an NVIDIA H100 pulls 400 or 700 watts maximum depending on the SKU [0] (in the DGX, the per-GPU "share" then works out to 1250 watts of course)

- a single H100 can handle many tens of concurrent chat sessions "in real time" using batched inference [1]

- therefore, the amortized instantaneous power per "virtual brain" is going to be strictly less than the human brain's 40 watts; even using the DGX numbers, this bar is cleared with "just" 32 concurrent sessions per GPU.

So as far as I'm concerned, maybe this is not a comparison people should be drawing up. These models may not be anywhere close to the human brain in many respects, but use more power, they do not. We're just scaling them out like there's no tomorrow.

Not even water use seems to be a good example by the way. Random paper by Google [2] that came up when searching for this suggests a water use of 1.15 liters per kWh. Apply this to the DGX case laid out above, that's 1.125 liter per day per "virtual brain". As everyone probably knows, a real person needs more like 2-3 liters of water a day in comparison (admittedly, serving more than just the brain though).

But then a fair comparison is usually not the goal of political tropes like this anyhow.

[0] https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/data-center/h100/

[1] https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/unlock-massive-token-throu...

[2] https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/measuring_the_envi...

Comment by gaanbal 5 minutes ago

I'm guessing you read the title, but not the article

because it has nothing to do with wattage comparisons

either that or you're severely autistic

Comment by perching_aix 2 minutes ago

The article I did skim but found boring, while the title was a topic I looked into before and found interesting. It's a common talking point after all.