Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
Posted by kevcampb 21 hours ago
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Comment by martinald 19 hours ago
- Bitbucket workers are hopelessly out of date (self hosted). We've had to put so many random workarounds in especially for Docker, as they don't keep them up to date enough
- I have had a bug in JIRA for years where I can't reorder a new ticket unless I refresh the page
- Every new feature they introduce into JIRA/Bitbucket over the past couple of years just doesn't work.
- I tried their AI stuff on the free trial, didn't work at all, tried to cancel, can't cancel the free trial online and had to write a load of support tickets (of which the support ticket contact form bugged out multiple times).
Anyone have any insight into why things have got so so dysfunctional? Tech debt? Talent leaving? Both? Even 'bad' enterprise software tends to be able to keep the most basic features running, but Atlassian is a whole new category. If you check their 'community' it is just hundreds/thousands of bugs with workarounds.
Comment by _pythonlover_ 4 hours ago
No one is focused on quality of the feature. It is all about speed. No one stops and thinks that may be users doesn't care about it. Data science teams are focused on cherry-picking data in a way that shows positive impact to show to the leadership that things are working. Engineers and teams are disincentivized to improve existing features, performance issues(unless it impacts revenue/some enterprise customer complains) and sometimes being punished for it. They are also steadily downsizing their support teams to cut costs.
Things are not going to improve. You should move away.
Comment by rurp 18 hours ago
Absolutely insane that this is legal. The only reason to do this is to trick and abuse customers. It would be trivially easy to legislate away if our government cared to.
Atlassian seems like a typical entrenched big company, albeit an extreme example. They make money by selling to the bosses of their users and being the default name brand for many cases. Once a company gets to a certain size and doesn't directly compete much on quality internal corruption and incompetence can run rampant.
Comment by duskdozer 5 hours ago
Comment by abustamam 6 hours ago
I'm not sure how enterprise works though.
Comment by HoldOnAMinute 16 hours ago
This affliction happens to almost every company, eventually. Nobody seems to have solved this.
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Comment by mhitza 19 hours ago
Even in mid-sized projects if you keep pushing for only new features you'll get a similar system. At least my experience in 3 or so midsized projects that I've worked on where nothing else mattered than checking of features from a huge backlog.
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Comment by darthwalsh 5 hours ago
I don't have to switch to the browser most of the time!
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Comment by saganus 19 hours ago
I guess it's "good" to know that I'm not alone.
The amount of times I've searched for a ticket that I know it's there (because I either have it opened in a different tab, or because I just created it), but can't find, it's just way to many.
Comment by wsatb 17 hours ago
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Comment by abustamam 6 hours ago
FWIW Github has similar shitty search interface. Not sure why.
Comment by ravenstine 18 hours ago
Gotta love the value that vibe coding has added to this world.
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Comment by ghm2180 11 hours ago
The migration would take 1-2 engineering man-days I suppose. But its money well spent.
Comment by siva7 11 hours ago
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Comment by xixixao 16 hours ago
Jira is garbage (frontend, backend). Tough but true.
Comment by wer232essf 16 hours ago
Comment by bena 11 hours ago
You yourself just admitted that you still use their products often.
Comment by pojzon 13 hours ago
Not surprised. Quote „…with significant institutional ownership from Vanguard, BlackRock, and others”.
Comment by kevcampb 21 hours ago
All your Confluence pages, Jira tickets, etc.
https://support.atlassian.com/security-and-access-policies/d... describes how to disable this, but it also appears that the setting to disable this doesn't exist (it's not visible on any of our instances).
Comment by pryanbeng 17 hours ago
I got this info from an email they sent out
>To give you control over this change, we're introducing new in‑app settings that allow you to manage in‑app data contribution. Initially, these settings will apply to data in Jira, Confluence, and Jira Service Management, including data in your Atlassian Platform apps (Rovo, Home, Teams, Projects, Assets, Goals, Analytics, and Administration). We'll notify you when settings become available for additional apps you own, so you can review them in Atlassian Administration. Between today and May 19, 2026, we'll gradually roll out these settings in Atlassian Administration. We'll send you another email on May 19th as a reminder, so you have time to review and make any adjustments before August 17, 2026.
Comment by m4rtink 17 hours ago
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Comment by carld 17 hours ago
So, is this an automatic opt-in without the ability to opt-out?
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Comment by kevcampb 19 hours ago
It's not just metadata, it's all "in-app data"
Comment by MagicMoonlight 17 hours ago
Not that they'd ever do that of course. Nobody with highly sensitive information about rival companies would ever do that.
Comment by itomato 17 hours ago
To get value out of Rovo, it needs detail. Your over-subscribed Jira power user/admin can't effectively make it happen. No guarantees Atlassian (Rovo itself) can make it happen either, but the patterns are going to develop and evolve closer and closer to the Agents that make the features.
They have a peculiar definition of Metadata, however. It's a proprietary data product derived from user content. It's a bit shit they way they sell it as metadata. It's a derivation. It's a product of Content, so it's Content - privacy safeguards cannot begin to cover the variation.
\"Metadata includes two data types referred to as content attributes and common patterns.
Content attributes are statistical characteristics, numeric fields, and derivatives of your in-app data. Examples of content attributes may include the number of story points assigned to a Jira work item or the complexity of a Confluence page. Common patterns are phrases, keywords, and topics we extract from search queries and results, Rovo Chat (conversations, prompts, and responses), and custom configuration data that are frequently seen across many customers, while omitting rare data that may be unique to your organization. Examples of common patterns may include common words, phrases, or Rovo Chat prompt topics that are frequently used by customers, such as “vacation policy” or “recap team activity.”\"
Comment by tgv 18 hours ago
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Comment by kevcampb 18 hours ago
So let me guess, they're hoping that we forget about this by then, so that they can scoop up our data? I can't think any other reason for it.
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Comment by svilen_dobrev 12 hours ago
And the specs become the new source (code).
fast forward..
Atlassian etc hold source specs -> scraped -> so AI may generate any of that.. then any of above..
the new source would be (?what? company missions? get-rich-quick-schemes?)
fast forward..
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Comment by dreknows 18 hours ago
One is a policy decision you can argue about. Both together suggest the friction is intentional.
The data residency point is worth flagging separately - a lot of enterprise buyers treat region-pinning as a privacy guarantee for everything in their contract. It was never that. Residency tells you where data is stored at rest, not who can access it for what purpose.
Comment by tgv 18 hours ago
“If customers were to right now terminate their contract, the new data contribution settings will not apply to them as these will not be enforced until August 17, 2026,” (from https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/18/atlassians_new_data_c...)
So you can't even take a bit of time to consider your options.
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Comment by tombert 17 hours ago
For stuff that I don't particularly care about privacy I've kept on the cloud (e.g. my blog, which is public anyway and as such is probably training bots regardless), but for stuff that I don't want to be used to train their models and/or sell to advertisers I have moved to be self hosted on my own network.
Comment by huwsername 19 hours ago
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Comment by mrweasel 14 hours ago
Until they finish evaluating competitors, and eventually migrate to .... something, they are completely stuck. Jira is at the heart of all of their workflows and they cannot and will not move to cloud. This was an Atlassian partner, but they got screwed over on that part as well.
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Comment by ororoo 11 hours ago
cloud repos are handy, but, having to constantly worry if some criminal comes "joinks, its my data now", is not worth it.
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[1] https://gitlab.com/jeremygonyea/jira-to-gitlab-migration-too...
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Comment by deferredgrant 15 hours ago
Would that include something like Trello?
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Comment by CobrastanJorji 14 hours ago
Atlassian: "Yolo!"
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Comment by qsera 18 hours ago
>rsyncrypto is a utility that encrypts a file (or a directory structure) in a way that ensures that local changes to the plain text file will result in local changes to the cipher text file. This, in turn, ensures that doing rsync to synchronize the encrypted files to another machine will have only a small impact on rsync's wire efficiency.
https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/rsyncrypto.1...
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Comment by an0malous 17 hours ago
It seems like the real bottleneck is something else.
Comment by moring 15 hours ago
The guy who has to keep it running day by day, next to the other 30 local-first systems.
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I've lost count of how many times I search for a keyword and get no relevant results, but the document I'm looking for, which contains the keyword, is in my automatic pop-up of recent documents visited.
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Comment by tqwhite 19 hours ago
I am 100% supportive of it being used for training... AI, you, everyone.
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