Israel escalates attacks on medics in Lebanon with deadly 'quadruple tap'
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Comment by hakrgrl 34 minutes ago
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Comment by hakrgrl 25 minutes ago
> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic
People don't come to Hacker News to talk about wars. They come to get away from wars.
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Ironically, many of my comments were flagged and removed where I suggested the post was inappropriate. No tolerance for any dissenting views or discussion, unfortunately.
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Thank God this is changing, but it’s going much too slowly.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens...
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Comment by voxl 4 hours ago
Yet, even this kind of Zionist is under their own genocidal threat, "from the river to the sea", and instead of their being a sensible perspective of "maybe let's not kill a bunch of any people's" we are left with the never ending debate or whose worse.
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Comment by 4MOAisgoodenuf 36 minutes ago
In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
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Comment by khaledh 4 hours ago
The violence started happening when the Zionists wanted the land for themselves, exclusive of the indigenous population (1948 nakba).
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Comment by DaveFr 2 hours ago
Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason.
This part,
> Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace?
is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality.
Additionally,
> The violence started happening when the Zionists wanted the land for themselves, exclusive of the indigenous population (1948 nakba).
Is ahistorical. There have been small but continuous Jewish settlements in the region since antiquity, Jews are indigenous. Further, Zionist immigration started earlier than 1948, as early as the late 1800s, and finally, Arabs fled Israel to avoid the incoming invasion from Arab Muslim nations who, for bigoted reasons, could not tolerate a Jewish state.
Comment by Supermancho 8 minutes ago
Let's agree for a moment that there was intense bigotry and prejudice, as I'm very sure there was some amount. As we can also agree, there is human tribalism alive and well to this day between people of minimal or great differences.
Separate but equal is not enslavement or extermination. Dhimmi was the basis for peace, not equality, and I haven't found a compelling alternative narrative.
> > The violence started happening when the Zionists wanted the land for themselves, exclusive of the indigenous population (1948 nakba).
> Is ahistorical.
While I can appreciate what you're trying to say here, the post you are responding to was describing a situation within the context of the Zionist state movement of the mid 1900s. The fact that there have always been Jewish settlements throughout the historical Levant (and beyond) is incidental. Neither of these points are without merit. I'm not sure arguing past each other about who deserves what is constructive.
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Comment by Supermancho 1 hour ago
I’ve never heard of it before today. I’m aware that Jews and Muslims live in Iran today. There is historical evidence, including written accounts, that some arrangement (Dhimmi?) existed over 1,200 years ago—whether social, legal, cultural, or, most likely, a combination. Under this system, the religions coexisted without the overtones of genocide within their communities.
Comment by thomassmith65 8 minutes ago
today. I’m aware that Jews and Muslims live in Iran today
That is true, in the sense that there are more than two jews left in Iran.5x as many Iranian jews live in the USA now. 20x in Israel.
Iran has a population of almost 100 million, and the Hollywood Bowl could seat its jewish population twice over.
Comment by Supermancho 2 minutes ago
Which has been enlightening. Thank you for highlighting the tenuous situation in Iran, which is not favorable toward Jews. This does shed light on the affair and seems credible to me.
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Comment by throwawayqqq11 8 hours ago
> How Israel's 'Legitimisation Cell' is justifying journalist killings in Gaza
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Comment by khaledh 5 hours ago
Lookup the Jewish terrorist groups Irgu, Lehi, and Haganah. Lookup the assassination of Lord Moyne by Lehi and the 1946 Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel. The leaders of these terrorist groups eventually became Prime Ministers of Israel.
While you're at it, lookup the attack by the Israeli military on the USS Liberty that killed 34 Americans.
Comment by LorenPechtel 4 hours ago
King David Hotel? You mean British military HQ? Who received and ignored the warning about the bomb?
USS Liberty--ever consider how hard it is to identify ships from the air in a combat situation? Israel knew the ship claimed to be American, but they thought that was a ruse.
Comment by Supermancho 3 hours ago
Respectfully, it is relevant, as explained. Historical context matters.
> And by far the primary cause of Palestinians leaving was Arab countries telling them to get out of the way of the coming invasion.
Excepting, as in this case, where someone makes up a historical narrative with a handwave.
Comment by well_ackshually 4 hours ago
Needless to say, it's not exactly making you look too good.
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Comment by se4u 5 hours ago
Absolutely, they could even be future combatants even if they are not now. That's why killing schoolgirls in Iran, reporters in Lebanon, etc. is justified, they are all potential terrorists. It definitely can not be proven otherwise that they are not. Why take a chance? /s
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Comment by notepad0x90 1 hour ago
All this war crime talk is nonsense. Either talk about sending your own children to war against Israel, or criticize them in other real terms. There are no war crimes against countries who don't recognize the ICJ, and even then, unless the judiciary of the country is consenting, a war crime charge isn't pursued.
It isn't a competition, but I hope you're neither an American nor a Russian, because if you are, clean your own house first before talking about how dirty someone else's is.
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Comment by notepad0x90 4 minutes ago
perhaps you're saying the people who support the war lobbying in the US are to blame? Yeah, they suck, but what do you suggest? Iran, Hezbolla (in lebannon) and Hammas (freely elected by Palestinians) all not just don't recognize israel's right to exist, but they continually threaten to kill all Israelis and reclaim the land (and this is after countries like Iran expelled all their jewish population). So you want Israel to be self-sufficent, all with it's own nukes. What's your expectation, that they'll give up and leave (where to?), or they'll be unable to defend themselves without the help of the US, and they'll avoid using their nukes? What happens when Iran gets nukes, will they watch and wait until they get nuked, because they're afraid the US will not like them anymore (look at what they're doing now when virtually everyone but the US isn't on their side).
I just don't get it, I know you're just repeating propaganda, but it saddens me to see the lack of critical thinking, or any thought or attempt to actually seek peace or advocate positions and politics that will have some realistic positive impact.
I mean come on, the US is still in NATO and only because of trump's remarks and hostility, Europe is rearming itself against an undetermined potential aggressor, that's while they still have US support. You want the US to pull all of it's military support, for a country that has been facing existential threats since its founding, and you expect peace out of that? or is your aim to see tens of millions die on both sides, and you're just rooting for Israel to be wiped off the map, and that somehow is victory?
Do you know why there is a cease-fire today, in Lebanon? Because the US demanded it as part of the cooperation with Israel, that's it. That's what supporting them purchases, influence. Not supporting them doesn't result in peace. Do you know why Israel hasn't been bombing Iran already? because their ally the US didn't want them to, they've been trying to for ages. If these are the war crimes being committed, even with a displeased US as an ally, what do you think will happen when they have no one left to displease that they care about?
Do you perhaps think it's like the US over there, where wars end because their economy declines and too many soldiers are dying? The alternative is genocide against their people in their minds!
it's really annoying seeing performative support for those being harmed by these ridiculous wars. But I get that you and others actually care about this, I don't mean to dismiss that, but these sentiments have impact. I'm pretty sure a large part of why trump is in office now (and thus, why this war is happening) is due to people staying home or voting for trump because they disapproved of the democrats of kamala over not supporting that silly propaganda nonsense you're repeating.
Now, I've made claims that in multiple ways, your sentiment and views are contributing factors causing this conflict, and might cause even greater tragedies to happen. I hope you re-evaluate, or critically analyze my claims and find reasonable faults that allow you to articulate your own original views instead of repeated propaganda talking-points.
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Comment by notepad0x90 1 hour ago
Point being: Either war crimes get enforced (against everyone violating them), or they're not war crimes. They're just war oopsies.
If you're an American, contact your congressperson about passing a law that recognizes the ICJ, and requires turning over of US presidents and military leaders that violate warc rimes to that court. If at least you don't support this sentiment, don't talk about war crimes. For those who don't know, the ICJ works with not against the judiciary of a country (Israel's supreme court in this case).
Comment by sph 9 hours ago
"A double tap, or double-tap, is the practice of following a strike [...] with a deliberately timed second strike in the same place several minutes later, usually in an attempt to maximize the casualties of an attack."
"Double-tap strikes have been used by Saudi Arabia during its military intervention in Yemen, by the United States in Pakistan, Yemen, and the Gulf of Mexico, by Israel in the 2014 Gaza War, the Gaza war (2023-present), and the 2026 Lebanon war. by Russia and the Ba'athist Syria in the Syrian civil war, and by Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War, especially since the full-scale invasion in 2022."
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> "The video follows them for about an hour as they tried to flip the boat back over. They couldn't do it," one source said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/video-shows-final-con...
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Assad in Syria used this tactic to target the White Helmet rescuers who would attend the scene after air attacks.
Now Israel is using the same tactic against innocent Lebanese medics.
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OECD avg per capita: 4.2 per 1,000 people
Lebanon: 1.0–1.2 beds per 1,000 people Palestine: 1.3 beds per 1,000 people
Palestine did have way more before, in 2022, at 13 per 1000. That would indeed be high.
Turns out that was purposefully done because of the extremely high prevalence of chronic disease and crises as caused by a blockade.
Now that I have wondered, I am curious as to why you would leave out such important details like this. Or not just plainly state your opinion.
I think we can guess why, and I think you also know it's because you are wrong.
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Comment by perching_aix 4 hours ago
- I'm under no confusion about what they're insinuating, that's not the point (see that below)
- I'm looking for their reply specifically
It's relatively easy to accuse, and to make up some story. It's a lot harder to provide substance and formulate a compelling argument.
Is the number of medical facilities really outstanding? Why does that suggest they're combatant hideouts? Which of them are, all? Why does them hiding combatants render double, triple, quadruple tapping, or even just targeting these facilities morally justified or reasonable? What sense does it even make to double, triple, quadruple tap in this context?
All pretty important questions I'd say, none of which are addressed by cowardly insinuations, I believe by design.
Last time I checked, my internal moral compass rated actually killing healthcare workers and the sick/injured/etc a lot worse than combatants using them as potential collateral (not that that'd be the pinnacle of morality). One would assume most other people's compass does too, hence why the above is news. How the paramedics that arrive afterwards become deserving of getting shelled, further remains an unelaborated-on mystery.
Comment by LorenPechtel 4 hours ago
Off the top of my head:
1) Remember how Israel kept talking about Hamas HQ being in bunkers under the main hospital and Hamas kept denying their existence? Very little news coverage of when Israel said of course we know there are bunkers, we built them!
2) I recall a video of Israel hitting a hospital--that we could see people were shooting from it.
3) I recall another video, Hamas had been denying tunnels under another hospital--then we have Israel nailing a senior commander with a bomb that clearly exploded in a tunnel quite near the hospital. (A bomb that explodes underground will have a very different blast pattern--watch some, it becomes apparent.)
As for moral compass: why are you supporting the people that hide behind the sick/injured?? Geneva is clear on this--military use, valid target. Human shield deaths are on the side using the human shields.
Comment by whatisthiseven 2 hours ago
"Dressed in army fatigues with a camera fixed to his forehead, Ayman Abu Hamadan was forced into houses in the Gaza Strip to make sure they were clear of bombs and gunmen, he said. When one unit finished with him, he was passed to the next.
“They beat me and told me: ‘You have no other option; do this or we’ll kill you,’” the 36-year-old told The Associated Press, describing the 2 1/2 weeks he was held last summer by the Israeli military in northern Gaza."
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-arm...
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Are you sure? Here are some stats of settler attacks from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs:
Year Total Incidents Daily Average
2021 540 1 incident / day
2022 852 2 incidents / day
2023 1,189–1,291 3 incidents / day
2024 1,420–1,449 4 incidents / day
2025 1,828 5 incidents / dayComment by LorenPechtel 4 hours ago
And it's amazing how many of those "settler" attacks make more sense if they are self defense.
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Can you name some of the instances you’re thinking of?
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In any case, killing medics is a violation of the Hague and Geneva conventions and the internal law.
If this story is hard for you to take seriously, there's thousands more stories, videos and witnessings of war crimes by Israel in very recent history..
Comment by rock_artist 5 hours ago
Hezbollah is not the “main” political party [1]
It is a major part of the government but not the main.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_L...
If they were the main party then it was Lebanon who attacked Israel following the war with Iran and not Hezbollah.
Lebanon is very pragmatic already and they actually have an army which isn’t Hezbollah.
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Are you saying they are employed medics of the organisation? Party members? Combatants?
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Comment by aibrahem 5 hours ago
The IOF has been notoriously lying about killing and torturing civilians. Not only that, but even soldiers caught red-handed on video raping prisoners have not only gotten away scot-free but also been allowed to rejoin the army. Is there a reason why we should trust anything such a genocidal, morally corrupt organization has to say?
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[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47144548
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https://www.un.org/unispal/document/statement-ohchr-08aug24/
https://mondoweiss.net/2025/11/outrage-over-video-leak-of-is...
I belive if you search for ‘Israeli soldiers gang rape prison’ you’ll find multiple links to it.