Stephen Miller's Dark Plot to Build a MAGA Terror State
Posted by tastyface 23 hours ago
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Comment by josefritzishere 22 hours ago
Comment by tastyface 23 hours ago
David Heinemeier Hansson has done the same. I'm sure there are others.
In other words, this fucked up sentiment is now endemic in our community and fervently propagated by the people with the most money.
Comment by tim333 6 hours ago
See for example the organised Chinese apply for asylum package tours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7TNP2OTY2g before the last election. If the dems won't control immigration you get Miller et al in instead.
Comment by JohnFen 22 hours ago
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Comment by JohnFen 6 hours ago
But I don't know. I've not made a decision yet (abandoning a career is a pretty huge decision), these are just the things that have been boiling up in me for a few years now.
Comment by tastyface 22 hours ago
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Comment by mothballed 22 hours ago
The Jews have their Israeli ethno-state. In Liberia for instance, citizenship is limited to blacks. Armenia has special citizenship progression for Armenians for instance. China is incredibly difficult to be a citizen unless you are ethnic Chinese. Most (arab) gulf states are ethno-states, muslims have countries like Afghanistan where pretty much any Muslim could settle and live in Shariah law.
Musk basically left south Africa around the time segregation ended. There is massive demand for white nationalist state as Western nations open themselves to multi-culturalism and there is basically no 'refuge' left for white nationalists unless you are Serbian or something.
The fact that ethno-states probably aren't defensible doesn't negate the fact white supremacists exist en masse and have demand for something that no longer exists, looking at examples of everyone else getting it, and scheming how they can get it for themselves. The only question is where they will end up focusing their collective energy.
Comment by tastyface 22 hours ago
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Comment by tastyface 23 hours ago
You... you think this sentiment is *not* representative of white nationalism? Really? Can you maybe fill in the blanks here? Who is doing the "raping"? Why is "Western civilization" purportedly coming to an end?
And when DHH says something like: "In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now." Could you perhaps explain to me what he might mean by "native Brit"?
You know what, I actually don't believe for a second that you're being honest here. You know exactly what this is but you don't want other people to name it. But that's OK: we'll name it for you. Feel free to wear it around your neck.
Comment by smithoc 22 hours ago
The paranoia and distrust is so intense that every statement will be seen as a coded phrase, "dog whistle" or obscure reference to some sinister thing.
Which is particularly unfortunate, because I think Elon's tweet is genuinely wrong and bad. But it kinda feels like these people need to disconnect from the internet and go for a walk. Maybe have a real life conversation with a real life regular person on the other side of the political aisle.
Comment by tastyface 22 hours ago
I don't get it. Are you waiting for someone to literally say "I fucking hate brown people and love Hitler" before calling them out? For what it's worth, we're basically already there. See Trump's recent remarks about Somalis. EDIT: and somehow I forgot the time when Young Republicans were LITERALLY PRAISING HITLER, then doubled down when exposed: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-...
You're blind to what you don't care to see, I guess. As for people on the opposite side of the political aisle from me, they're busy dragging Latino children out of schools and abducting people who overstayed their visa to Salvadoran torture camps, or supporting the same, so fuck their inhuman politics very much indeed.
Comment by verdverm 21 hours ago
While I agree with the general problem, you do yourself a disservice by using such a poor example with so many more potent ones out there. You also do a disservice to the movement to fight back by making easy examples for "look at how out of touch they are" (i.e. making mountains out of mole hills when you could point out the actual mountains)
Comment by tastyface 20 hours ago
I can’t do anything about Miller being a ghoul, but if I can help one or two people have second thoughts about using Twitter or Grok, it will be well worth it.
Comment by scarmig 22 hours ago
This is bad, because it both 1) waters down actual neo-Naziism (which is fringe and rare) and worse 2) alienates people to the point where they support non-neo-Nazi but bad policy.
(For me personally, my take on "Western Civilization" is along the lines of Gandhi: I think it'd be a wonderful idea.)
Comment by SilverElfin 23 hours ago
But soon after the Charlie Kirk assassination, I saw them start to regularly repeat the talking points first popularized by racist supremacists. I also saw phrases like “Western values” or “Western civilization” or Christian/Biblical analogies appearing more. Then I saw them retweet posts made by supremacist Twitter profiles directly (instead of just borrowing talking points or phrases). And now you have people like Musk straight up calling for “Remigration”, which is the far right’s term for sending people who aren’t white Christian Europeans back to the place they originated from - including taking away the citizenship of current US citizens.
It is very disturbing to see this shift among many Silicon Valley billionaires, especially since there is a collection of powerful companies (Palantir, Anduril, SpaceX, etc) that are being embedded into the government and into defense by the Trump administration.
Comment by yawpitch 22 hours ago
Note this was all happening — and obvious — well before Kirk’s death; there’s been no shift, Musk and Thiel have been working on this, and not hiding it, since the start.